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Philbin offense described as, "Vanilla"

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  1. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/s...ort-miami-might-spend-a-mid-or-lower-r/nT7YK/

    You may now overreact.....

    Seeing as though there has been a season in the books with Philbin/Sherman, what does everyone think of the O? Is it WCO on tap.....a little bit of this a little of that.....thoughts on the comment and the O in general?
     
  2. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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  3. NolePhin15

    NolePhin15 Well-Known Member

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    He has a rookie QB with limited weapons. Not surprising. As long as its effective next year though.
     
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  4. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Vanilla is my favorite flavor. I think it's pointless to make judgements about his style of O, especially based after his first season here with this roster. You play to your strengths. You change. You acclimate to your given weapons. All coaches and coordinators mix things up now depending on what team or formations they face.
     
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  5. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Club Member

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    I had no issues with the offensive playcalling this year. And I'd hardly describe the Packers offense during his tenure as "vanilla".
     
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  6. Perfectville_USA

    Perfectville_USA Mr Perfect

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    Because of our current group of players, Philbin had to change his offense. Our O-line does not look like a zone blocking team yet. Need guards that can get to the 2nd level. Our WR's do not stretch the field or get seperation and our TE's can not threaten the seams of the field. I thought Philbin did a great job last year, not trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Some how we ended up with 7 wins, despite our personel not fitting the scheme.
     
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  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I like chocolate better, or a mix of vanilla and chocolate. Caramel is also quite delicious.
     
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  8. Desides

    Desides Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    My pulse rate isn't spiking over something said 10+ years ago.

    Also, how relevant is this comment, really? The Packers kept Mike Sherman's offense but variated it somewhat, and Mike McCarthy called plays. The Dolphins are now running Sherman's playbook. How much of Joe Philbin's philosophy is involved here? How much of his offense have we really seen over his last two jobs? It doesn't seem like an awful lot.
     
  9. Rhody Phins Fan

    Rhody Phins Fan Well-Known Member

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    Vanilla is fine. The Colts were vanilla for years with Peyton Manning. As long as you can execute then you will be good. I do like some of the stuff that the 49ers have been doing though. They do a lot with different formations and movements before snapping the ball.
     
  10. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I think its too early to make a decision on the offense until all of the pieces are in place. The only thing I have any doubts about is Philbin's statement that Miami didn't need a #1 wide receiver, because that is pretty obvious to be false.
     
  11. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    If you execute, it doesn't matter what flavor it is, and frankly who would care. If you're successful, people won't care if you throw, run, punt or whatever.
     
  12. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    A vanilla offense got Aaron Rodgers a 122 rating on the season. I'll take it.
     
  13. Ozzy

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    Did he say he knew Sherman as well?
     
  14. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    I think what he meant is we need four #1 receivers :escape:
     
  15. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Are we still talking about ice cream? Or the girls in your sig? Either way...agreed. :shifty:
     
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  16. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I find the whole concept of offenses being labeled "vanilla" problematic.

    "Vanilla" is just a term used for an offense that isn't elite basically. It's the same kind of thing that has play-calling criticized due to lack of offensive production, when the reality is there are complex, innovative offenses that don't perform and relatively simplistic ones that do.
     
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  17. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Can only run vanilla when you've just put in your offense and don't have the talent to run more exotic flavors.

    Patience, Grasshopper. The 1972 Dolphins offense was vanilla. Everyone knew what was coming.
     
  18. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If Philbin's offense is Vanilla.....what flavor was Sparano/Hennings.....please don't answer that.....
     
  19. VanDolPhan

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    Well it's not really Philbin's offense. It's Mike Sherman's offense. Considering it's virtually the same one he ran at Texas A&M.
     
  20. ToddPhin

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    You mean like a vanilla cone in one hand and a chocolate cone in the other? :shifty:
     
  21. Sceeto

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    I can see you do bro. I hear ya'. It's all good. :tongue_smilie:
     
  22. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Why...offenses of course. ;)
    For ice cream, I like Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia or Cookie Dough. Compared to Ben & Jerry's all other ice creams are just blaaaa.
     
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  23. MrClean

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    Sometimes, Jim Langer would tell the defense what they were going to run, then dare them to stop it. Or so that was one of the folk legends attached to the early 70s Dolphins anyway.
     
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  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Well...it looked like chocolate, but apparently smelled and tasted much different. :shifty:
     
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  25. MAFishFan

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    i'm lactose intolerant
     
  26. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Well, despite the fact that Joe Philbin says that if you can count to four, you can learn his offense, his offense is relatively complex. It's complex enough that Lamar Miller, who may have been our best running back this year, did not play much because he could not learn the offense. The same goes for Michael Egnew, and it also goes for Charles Clay. It took the Dolphins a while to get him assimilated into the game plan, and once they started getting him involved, he gets injured.
     
  27. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    Crap. There. I answered it. It was crap-flavored. Ive never tried that but Id imagine it wouldnt taste very good, just like those offenses werent very good.
     
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  28. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    I think with Miller the bigger issue was simply blitz pick up and thats something most rookie RB's struggle some with. With Egnew I think it was a little bit of playbook issues and needing to get stronger/become a better blocker.
     
  29. djphinfan

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    Rihanna is my favorite flavor..

    The only reason ill be watching the halftime show is for that Beyonce flavor, surely won't be for her music, even though I know your favorite song is " put a ring on it"..... Seriously if she sings that freakin song I'm gonna replace her in my top 5 out of shear stupidity.

    Really love Jennifer Lawrence right now, she's creamy vanilla..
     
  30. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Get better players than the other team, execute what they do the best, win championships..Gm needs to step up.
     
  31. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    What about Haagen Das (sp?)? That's pretty damn good too. And anyone near the Cincinnati are will back me up when I say Greaters (also sp?) ice cream is amazing. Probably the best ice cream I've ever had is their black raspberry with dark chocolate chunk.

    Now if we want to venture into Soft serve discussion, then Byrne Dairy in Upstate New York is my favorite. Here in DC a place called Del Ray Dreamery serves up an amazing custard too.

    I'm a fat kid...
     
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  32. Disgustipate

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    I don't know if that is true for Clay, he was on the field pretty heavily for a while.
     

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