Peter King: Dolphins heavily researching Cardinals QB Josh Rosen

Well, if they investigated him heavily then they will realize that he's not worth bringing in.

I think that I'm destined to be on the opposite side of the fence than 90% of you on QBs for the rest of my life :lol:

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I think that I'm destined to be on the opposite side of the fence than 90% of you on QBs for the rest of my life :lol:

I agree with most of what you say about quarterbacks. Now you know your wrong.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I don't want to rock anybody else's boat, but yes without question. Tago is TDB, he could really impress me next season. Leaving that open. Right now I look at him as #2 behind Fromm. I just really, really don't like Mayfield, and wouldn't want to make him my team's QB.

Wow.You realize mayfield broke the rookie td record right?

Love Rosen, my favorite last and this year. And the Cardinals' willingness to let him go tells me their brain-trust/front office is not 100% on where the franchise is going...I mean, c'mon...it's ARIZONA...not a bastion of successful, long-term winning football. If it were the Steelers, Ravens, Cheatriots picking him up then trying to dump him, then ya...I'd have pause.

"BevoPhin wrote:

Just realized his name is Joshua ballinger lippincott Rosen. Sounds like a yacht club yuppie who drinks tea with his pinky raised.

Well I'm a Brit and I LOVE tea but I can't say that it's ever had that effect on me.

Oh... you mean his little finger? Ooops! :blushing:

"pumpdogs wrote:

Wow.You realize mayfield broke the rookie td record right?

I never said that he wasn't a productive player, and even last year leading up to the draft, I didn't say that he'd be a bust. Just that I don't like him, on or off the field. Similar to how I felt about Phillip Rivers while he was in college, and still do 15+ years later.

"BevoPhin wrote:

Just realized his name is Joshua ballinger lippincott Rosen. Sounds like a yacht club yuppie who drinks tea with his pinky raised.

His parents are wealthy. So are Zach Thomas's. So what?

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

His parents are wealthy. So are Zach Thomas's. So what?

I think he was just saying it sounds like a made up name for a rich kid in a sitcom.

I'd give up a 3rd this year and a pick next year based off performance. Say a 5th or 6th if he ends up sucking, and another 3rd if he plays well.

That's assuming he's the starter of course.

If we trade for him, I'm also a fan of getting one of the guys next year. Throw resources at QB until the position is settled. Let Rosen sign a megadeal off some average seasons, reap the picks, and groom another one to replace.

If Rosen's play is undeniable, then hey, win-win.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I never said that he wasn't a productive player, and even last year leading up to the draft, I didn't say that he'd be a bust. Just that I don't like him, on or off the field. Similar to how I felt about Phillip Rivers while he was in college, and still do 15+ years later.

Perhaps eventually you should just say you were wrong?

I'd have no problem trading a third or fourth for him, with a conditional pick next year in the same region. We aren't likely to get a quarterback with his talent in that range unless we happen upon the next Russel Wilson or Dak Prescott. And to be honest I'd rather have Rosen out there starting than Fitzpatrick. So it's worth the risk in my view. If it works out we can have our next franchise quarterback. If it doesn't we can draft someone next year.

"Mike8272 wrote:

I'd have no problem trading a third or fourth for him, with a conditional pick next year in the same region. We aren't likely to get a quarterback with his talent in that range unless we happen upon the next Russel Wilson or Dak Prescott. And to be honest I'd rather have Rosen out there starting than Fitzpatrick. So it's worth the risk in my view. If it works out we can have our next franchise quarterback. If it doesn't we can draft someone next year.

Exactly my thoughts!

Give me one Josh Rosen please.

This dude is going to have the absolute biggest chip on his shoulder by the time he hits the field next.

Cardinals have really done him dirty. I don't understand why anyone would ever want to play for that organization. They're horrible to their players.

I haven't been keeping up. Are we one of the few teams left talking with the Cards about Rosen? Is it a game of wills and we will see who blinks first?

Unsure. I haven't heard anything new, but the other two primary trade partners just drafted QB's in the first round. From earlier reports, it's only us and the Patriots left?

"Surfs Up 99 wrote:

I haven't been keeping up. Are we one of the few teams left talking with the Cards about Rosen? Is it a game of wills and we will see who blinks first?

That's kinda what I'm thinking.

"daphins wrote:

Unsure. I haven't heard anything new, but the other two primary trade partners just drafted QB's in the first round. From earlier reports, it's only us and the Patriots left?

The Chargers could also be in play. But, I really think we have to be the front runner.

"Fame wrote:

Perhaps eventually you should just say you were wrong?

Wrong that I don't like him?

There are plenty of TV shows, movies and music that millions of people like, win all sorts of awards, ect....but I don't have to like them, or enjoy watching or listening to them. That doesn't make me wrong, it just means that I don't like them. Same with football players. A guy can set every record in the book and go to the HOF, but that doesn't mean I have to like him, or would want him on my team.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Wrong that I don't like him?

There are plenty of TV shows, movies and music that millions of people like, win all sorts of awards, ect....but I don't have to like them, or enjoy watching or listening to them. That doesn't make me wrong, it just means that I don't like them. Same with football players. A guy can set every record in the book and go to the HOF, but that doesn't mean I have to like him, or would want him on my team.

To be fair, "I don't like <insert player>" in a football context most often means you don't think he's good. It rarely means you actually don't like the guy.

Though I was mainly talking about Philip Rivers. After 15 years of the guy being a top 10 QB, you may have been wrong.

God help this effin' franchise if they kick the tires on Josh Rosen.

Make it happen, Miami. They can grab Rosen for cheap now that Arizona has made their intentions clear. Very good prospect with an excellent head on his shoulders. I'd toss a 3rd rd pick without blinking, and would consider a 2nd if the Cards would concede some higher round draft picks to compensate.

"Rock Sexton wrote:

God help this effin' franchise if they kick the tires on Josh Rosen.

This makes zero sense. Rosen is/was the favorite QB last year coming into the draft everyone liked him. He played for 1 year on a shit team with multiple issues and offense schemes. His contract is very friendly and we have ZERO ability to get a Franchise QB this year and possibly next year. What don't you like about this? If we get this I would be 10000% excited. If it doesn't work out what have we lost? Make a contingent proposal for next years 2-3 and give them something this year for him. Everything we pick from now on in the draft is a crap shoot!

"Dorfdad wrote:

This makes zero sense. Rosen is/was the favorite QB last year coming into the draft everyone liked him. He played for 1 year on a **** team with multiple issues and offense schemes. His contract is very friendly and we have ZERO ability to get a Franchise QB this year and possibly next year. What don't you like about this? If we get this I would be 10000% excited. If it doesn't work out what have we lost? Make a contingent proposal for next years 2-3 and give them something this year for him. Everything we pick from now on in the draft is a crap shoot!

As a University of Arizona alumn - I watched plenty of Pac12 ball. Both he and Darnold were a couple of the most over-hyped, overrated QB's to ever hit the college landscape. His cockiness (and I'm not just talking about his opinions) lead to baffling throws and turnovers. It's not going to change here in Miami, it's who he is at his core. Everywhere on Twitter is reporting the 48th pick of the draft, which makes it even worse.

The only excuse he has is the round robin of coaching he's experienced between college and the NFL. The fact that AZ is running away from him as fast as possible is a serious red flag.

This thread has just reminded me of the pro-comp I saw on Rosen last year where he was compared to Bo Callahan from the movie Draft Day in that he had the natural talent but nobody really seemed to like him and there was questions about his coachability. Tickled me at the time, but it's a year on and honestly I don't know what Josh Rosen is as an NFL QB.

I maybe offer a 4th or 5th to save them from a potentially toxic camp that hurts the Cardinal's new chosen one in Murray. Meanwhile I've got a year to figure out what exactly Josh Rosen is, which to be honest is the sort of thing I'd expect to spend the next year doing with a 4th or 5th round pick at QB. I think somebody blinks though and offers at least a 3rd if not a 2nd.

My concern is that despite being a different type of QB, Rosen is Tannehill in that he's a decent QB but nothing more and grabbing him handcuffs us.