Per NFL Network: Seattle & Miami showing interest in Moss

This could play out for a while. I agree with Michael Lombardi, Joe Theismann and Boomer Esiason that the chances are good that Moss clears waivers.

Some team is going to get lucky but it'll be up to Randy which one...for really the first time in his career.

"ckparrothead wrote:

This could play out for a while. I agree with Michael Lombardi, Joe Theismann and Boomer Esiason that the chances are good that Moss clears waivers.

Some team is going to get lucky but it'll be up to Randy which one...for really the first time in his career.

I disagree though on that one. Miami can ill afford to have the Patriots reacquire Moss. I don't think they'd shy from paying the money either. The Rams won't for locker room issues and what not but Ireland seems like he really wants to win as I think his safety net is gone. That aggressive move for Mankins was perhaps one sign.

"FinsAreLife wrote:

so when will we know what team he has gone to? tommorow?

Wednesday 4pm, he did make the days waiver wire so he will be waived officially tomorrow and then 24 hr claim period kicks in.

I'm curious if there will be some backroom, quid pro quo.

I really don't think the Patriots are going to do it. They've moved on. Bill Belichick today said pretty emphatically that they're not going for him. Even though I don't buy that Moss was creating a problem in the locker room, I do buy that he was pissing Belichick off something FIERCE...and that guy has an ego. He traded Moss and kept winning games, kept producing offense. It's not happening.

Do you buy him in Miami lighting the league on fire with a passing game we haven't had since probably 92?

"ckparrothead wrote:

I really don't think the Patriots are going to do it. They've moved on. Bill Belichick today said pretty emphatically that they're not going for him. Even though I don't buy that Moss was creating a problem in the locker room, I do buy that he was pissing Belichick off something FIERCE...and that guy has an ego. He traded Moss and kept winning games, kept producing offense. It's not happening.

Besides, recall a team has to wait a yr before they resign the player they traded for a draft per the Jason Taylor trade with DC?

"Jaj wrote:

Do you buy him in Miami lighting the league on fire with a passing game we haven't had since probably 92?

I don't see him setting the league on fire (b/c he'll be sharing pass attempts with Bess & Marshall), but I do see us picking up a lot more chunk yardage by everyone with him here....... and I see us exchanging some of these FGs for TDs instead.

I'm not sure though to be honest. There's a good chance we go 3 WR and that's it the rest of the year if we get Moss with Ronnie Brown as a dump off option in the case of small low level pass rush.

I like the idea of Moss outrunning the defense on EVERY play. Bess will get himself open given enough time and I'm not even mentioning the 3rd best WR in the game.

Marshall-Moss-Bess is unheard of.

"Jaj wrote:

Do you buy him in Miami lighting the league on fire with a passing game we haven't had since probably 92?

Moss instantly takes double teams off of Marshall. Teams could double Marshall/Moss all game long but that means no safeties in the box against the run (drool) and Bess single covered AND Fasano covered only by a linebacker or dime corner.

If he can't kick a field goal what good is he?

You can double cover as much as you want but if Moss has six seconds with a heavy protection package there's little chance that you can stop him even then. It's pretty simple really. Brown and Fasano along with the five linemen will keep Henne clean quite often. If you're doubling Marshall and Moss that's four taken out of the play. One guy has to cover Bess making it six MAXIMUM for the pass rush and that can still be picked up. Either way it's a major nightmare for the defense especially if their line can't pressure Henne. Not to mention Brown and Fasano releasing for easy yardage.

"Jaj wrote:

You can double cover as much as you want but if Moss has six seconds with a heavy protection package there's little chance that you can stop him even then. It's pretty simple really. Brown and Fasano along with the five linemen will keep Henne clean quite often. If you're doubling Marshall and Moss that's four taken out of the play. One guy has to cover Bess making it six MAXIMUM for the pass rush and that can still be picked up. Either way it's a major nightmare for the defense especially if their line can't pressure Henne. Not to mention Brown and Fasano releasing for easy yardage.

Exactly. If they can get a semi happy Moss it easies the jobs of every player on that offense. Guys see easier coverages and the underneath will be open large. Not to mention Moss dictates 2 deep bombs a game.

Henne would probably cry sweet tears of joy. I bet Jets fans would assume they can stop them with their CBs though. Bull****.

By the way what WR core could be considered better than that trio since welll.... I don't know.

"BlameItOnTheHenne wrote:

Whoever claims him must pay his remaining salary even if that team ends up cutting him?

love your sig :lol:

You people seriously cant want Moss on the Dolphins. Marshall is pissed already that he only has 1 touchdown on the season do you expect him to be happy when Moss comes in and takes away some of his receptions?

Why would he take away receptions? Hartline already gets 5 catches a week. That's plenty for Moss. 5 catches for Moss is 70-80 yards a week and Marshall will be seeing what he did in the first half of that G.B. game every week. This team will become a true passing team.

"Jaj wrote:

Do you buy him in Miami lighting the league on fire with a passing game we haven't had since probably 92?

No but I buy him serving a valuable role.

"Phinatic19 wrote:

You people seriously cant want Moss on the Dolphins. Marshall is pissed already that he only has 1 touchdown on the season do you expect him to be happy when Moss comes in and takes away some of his receptions?

Hell. Yes. Sign that SOB up

"Phinatic19 wrote:

You people seriously cant want Moss on the Dolphins. Marshall is pissed already that he only has 1 touchdown on the season do you expect him to be happy when Moss comes in and takes away some of his receptions?

Yes we are serious. Marshall would be thrilled to have a guy here who prevents defenses from focusing on him so much...... and as such he would score MORE TDs, not less. With defenses more spread out (or less coverage on Brandon), he'll have more space to do what he does best- tack on chunk yardage. I'm sure he'll love that too!! Your logic is backwards, no offense.

Is it really true that you can't re-sign a guy that you traded away within a year?

"Phinatic19 wrote:

You people seriously cant want Moss on the Dolphins. Marshall is pissed already that he only has 1 touchdown on the season do you expect him to be happy when Moss comes in and takes away some of his receptions?

I think they care more about winning than stats.

We average about 37 passes a game the last three games. There's plenty of passes to spread around especially if they keep Fasano in more often or Brown.

What Marshall is probably most frustrated with is us NOT having a quality #2/deep threat who demands more coverage attention than what Hartline provides.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Is it really true that you can't re-sign a guy that you traded away within a year?

That was a big issue in 09 with Taylor.

He's frustrated that Henne won't force the ball into coverage to feed him passes which is why they need to continue to give him that bubble screen to see what he can do.