Pat White not expected to play in 3rd preseason game

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cobrajetcobrajetNew MemberOP
Aug 24, 2010, 12:05 AM

Here we go again - - -

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20100824_pat_white_not_expected_to_play_in_third_preseason_game

"Miami Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said he doesn't envision any playing time for fourth-string quarterback Pat White(notes) during the team's third preseason game against the Atlanta Falcons. When asked if White would play, Sparano had a one-word answer: "No."

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DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
Aug 24, 2010, 12:16 AM

Whites the odd man out and probably cut or traded. Penny is here as a player this year next I invasion thigy as the backup

finfansince72finfansince72subscriber
Aug 24, 2010, 12:31 AM

I think they are basically telling him if he wants to stay on the team he has to change positions at this point.

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 12:42 AM

just cut him. I support pat white and i do think he's getting a raw deal here, but regardless they're handling this wrong. Just cut him.

He's not SO bad that he shouldn't be playing in the 4th qtr against guys who won't be in the league in 2 weeks. thats just stupid.

FIFinsAreLifeNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 01:16 AM

If you wont adjust to what his strengths are as an athlete/player why did you draft him? We'll see what happens....

cobrajetcobrajetNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 08:16 AM

Put him on the practice squad where he belongs and let him develop.

cobrajetcobrajetNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 08:19 AM

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Aug 24, 2010, 08:39 AM

See, this is what happens when the staff takes a flyer on high second round developmental pick and it backfires on him....next we'll be seeing a thread that is entitled, "Pat White takes a dump in locker room, vows to be the best dumper in the league !"

Why so many threads for a guy that will be labeled "bust" in a few weeks ???

NJFINSFAN1NJFINSFAN1luxury_box
Aug 24, 2010, 08:44 AM

"silence dogood wrote:

Put him on the practice squad where he belongs and let him develop.

You can't, he has been in to many games.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Aug 24, 2010, 08:56 AM

No where for him to go.....good kid. but didnt work out, whats done is done, we used a 2nd rounder, that sucks, but now lets move on

MBmbmonkNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 09:12 AM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

See, this is what happens when the staff takes a flyer on high second round developmental pick and it backfires on him....next we'll be seeing a thread that is entitled, "Pat White takes a dump in locker room, vows to be the best dumper in the league !"

Why so many threads for a guy that will be labeled "bust" in a few weeks ???

I was with you right up until you started talking about Pat taking a dump in the locker room. You lost me at that point :lol:

This just seemed fitting in mutliple ways:
:crapstrom:

Tin IndianTin Indianforum_veteran
Aug 24, 2010, 09:26 AM

Just cut him. He obviously isn't in their plans. Give the guy a chance to hook up somewhere else or go to the CFL or MLB if he wants. It doesn't make sense to keep him here if he's not going to play. Chalk it up to a mistake and cut the ties.

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HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 09:35 AM

Just cut him. He obviously isn't in their plans. Give the guy a chance to hook up somewhere else or go to the CFL or MLB if he wants. It doesn't make sense to keep him here if he's not going to play. Chalk it up to a mistake and cut the ties.

Feel bad for the guy, even though this is mostly a regime failure. When you draft a QB in the second round and immediately change his throwing motion, you've already admitted your mistake.

If I were Pat White, assuming he plays in the 4th game, I'd go back to my old motion and go for broke. If he still can, that is.

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SICKSICKforum_veteran
Aug 24, 2010, 09:35 AM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Feel bad for the guy, even though this is mostly a regime failure. When you draft a QB in the second round and immediately change his throwing motion, you've already admitted your mistake.

If I were Pat White, assuming he plays in the 4th game, I'd go back to my old motion and go for broke. If he still can, that is.

ya and if i were him, id wear gloves.....maybe hide them in his hand warmer (in august) or something

AbideN703AbideN703New Member
Aug 24, 2010, 09:46 AM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Feel bad for the guy, even though this is mostly a regime failure. When you draft a QB in the second round and immediately change his throwing motion, you've already admitted your mistake.

If I were Pat White, assuming he plays in the 4th game, I'd go back to my old motion and go for broke. If he still can, that is.

Tebow?

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Aug 24, 2010, 09:47 AM

"AbideN703 wrote:

Tebow?

nah tebow was changing his motion since the senior bowl.....

OzzyOzzyluxury_box
Aug 24, 2010, 11:50 AM

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

You can't, he has been in to many games.

That's correct but there is a better chance that no one will pick him up anyway. So give him a playbook and tell him to do like Happy Gilmore. Go home, practice, and good luck again next year....

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HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 12:47 PM

"AbideN703 wrote:

Tebow?

"SICK wrote:

nah tebow was changing his motion since the senior bowl.....

Yes, Tebow changed his after last season. I still think most people would agree trading up for Tebow was still a horrible decision, however.

The Dolphins drafted Pat White as is. That is to say, presumably they liked his game. I understand the spread, I understand how his completion % can be so high in it, but you don't draft a guy in the second round and try to change him. You do that in the 4th or 5th round where it doesn't matter.

Sometimes I'm not so sure that if the Wildpat had been succesful the Dolphins would've traded 2 picks for Brandon Marshall..

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Vengeful OdinVengeful Odinforum_veteran
Aug 24, 2010, 01:21 PM

What are we going to talk about if and when White is moved?

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LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Aug 24, 2010, 01:26 PM

"mbmonk wrote:

I was with you right up until you started talking about Pat taking a dump in the locker room. You lost me at that point :lol:

This just seemed fitting in mutliple ways:
:crapstrom:

Just referring to the inordinate number of threads started on this subject...however, I'm as guilty as anyone about jumping into them...

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Aug 24, 2010, 01:34 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Feel bad for the guy, even though this is mostly a regime failure. When you draft a QB in the second round and immediately change his throwing motion, you've already admitted your mistake.

If I were Pat White, assuming he plays in the 4th game, I'd go back to my old motion and go for broke. If he still can, that is.

Ummmm, they adjusted his mechanics some, but I don't recall his overall throwing motion being changed...either way, his skill hasn't translated to this level. Just another spread option guy that couldn't make it in the NFL.

What we really don't know tho, is whether he was receptive to a position in change (like to WR, RB, returner, etc) or whether he resisted such a change. That kind of info has been muddled by White and by Sparano...

At this point, the writing is on the wall here for him...elsewhere ?? Who knows...he'll probably go to the Patriots join Brady, blow the league away with his WCxQB skills and lead them to a title and Belicheat will get the credit for revolutionizing the league.

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 02:17 PM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Ummmm, they adjusted his mechanics some, but I don't recall his overall throwing motion being changed...either way, his skill hasn't translated to this level. Just another spread option guy that couldn't make it in the NFL.

What we really don't know tho, is whether he was receptive to a position in change (like to WR, RB, returner, etc) or whether he resisted such a change. That kind of info has been muddled by White and by Sparano...

At this point, the writing is on the wall here for him...elsewhere ?? Who knows...he'll probably go to the Patriots join Brady, blow the league away with his WCxQB skills and lead them to a title and Belicheat will get the credit for revolutionizing the league.

Pretty tough to change mechanics without changing a guy's motion. If you mean mechanics like footwork, how he holds that ball, etc., that's one thing, but that's not what they did IIRC.

EDIT: Technically they did change those things I mentioned, in addition to other things. They had him throw from a higher arm slot and also changed his shoulder position on throws. That's definitely a new motion, and not one a guy is gonna get accustomed to quickly, if ever.

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TEtexasPHINSfanNew Member
Aug 24, 2010, 02:20 PM

I say keep white through the final preseason game and use him for most of that useless 4th contest.

Then cut. :)

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LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Aug 24, 2010, 04:07 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Pretty tough to change mechanics without changing a guy's motion. If you mean mechanics like footwork, how he holds that ball, etc., that's one thing, but that's not what they did IIRC.

EDIT: Technically they did change those things I mentioned, in addition to other things. They had him throw from a higher arm slot and also changed his shoulder position on throws. That's definitely a new motion, and not one a guy is gonna get accustomed to quickly, if ever.

I guess I didn't pay that much attention to what they were trying to do with him. I just don't remember them messing with him too much, but you're probably right... Still, for whatever reason, things just haven't gone well for the kid here. Who is at fault ?? Don't know...was it bad guessing on his talent by the staff ?? Was it his inability to adjust to a different position or his unwillingness to adjust to a different position and utilize the talent he does have ?? Was it just a matter of just another college spread QB that couldn't make the adjustment ??

PhinsRockPhinsRockluxury_box
Aug 24, 2010, 04:12 PM

"Tin Indian wrote:

Just cut him. He obviously isn't in their plans. Give the guy a chance to hook up somewhere else or go to the CFL or MLB if he wants. It doesn't make sense to keep him here if he's not going to play. Chalk it up to a mistake and cut the ties.

This, he's a good kid and deserves a break somewhere. Likely will end up in the CFL or MLB and I wish him well in whichever place he lands.

I will be very glad when he is gone if only for the sake of not having to sift through so freakin many Pat White threads, it's Ted Ginn & John Beck all over again!

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