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Pat White is back in the league

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CANEPHINS, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Redskins sign him to compete with Rex Grossman for the #3 QB on the team. He hasn't been seen in the NFL since...

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    I personally can't see him lasting long in the game, especially if he takes another hit like that. He seems like a good kid and hope he does well there, but I really don't think the NFL is where he should be.
     
  2. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    I guess the success of triple option QBs make him think he can make a comeback.
     
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  3. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Too be fair not many football players can last long if they take hits like that. That was an illegal play where almost all of the force went directly into his head. Any player regardless of size or build would be out, because unless I missed something in gym class there aren't weights that you can lift to make your skull stronger.
     
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  4. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Ironic, since he was taken by Miami with the pick we got in the JT to Redskins deal IIRC. One of the worst draft picks ever IMHO. I know many may argue, but I recall being enraged when the selection was announced. What a waste of a second rounder. And, based on everything I've heard or read over the last couple of years, it was all BP. Thanks Bill!
     
  5. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    I think people thought, at the time, that the Wildcat was something that would bring the Dolphins to the promise land and a QB selected specifically for the Wildcat was genius. Of course this dude was way to small to actually try and run through a line unlike Ronnie Brown.

    Remember that season agains the Bills, after Ronnie Brown got injuries, they tried to make Ricky a Wildcat back? They were in the red-zone and Tony Suckrono had him pass the ball and it got picked off. Had they won that game they could have been in a race for a playoff spot even after an 0-3 start.
     
  6. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    He should have been a Brad Smith/WR type weapon.
     
  7. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Yeah, maybe. But, the bigger issue with me was he was grossly over drafted. 2nd round was a HUGE reach. Mayock (whom I have a great deal of respect for) and other analysts had him going no earlier than the 4th. And, more likely in the 5th or 6th.

    Ahhh...Paul Kruger. What could've been.
     
  8. Larry Little

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    Good luck to him. May he complete a pass.
     
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  9. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Odds are he doesn't make it out of camp.

    Sounds like he is just going to fill in as "RGIII" for OTA's and camp fluff until RGIII can get back out there. This way they have someone with the same skill set running the plays in camps.
     
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  10. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Oh, Oh, Oh Fitzmagic Club Member

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    He's a #3 QB, so it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things of whether he plays or not. If the Redskins lose RGIII again (which they will) and Cousins is out and they are depending on Pat White or Rex Grossman, they are screwed, as are most teams down to their #3.
     
  11. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    This
     
  12. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He ran the play that he was told to run, without fear or hesitation. He got clobbered. It's football.

    I respect him a lot more than I respected Teddy Ginn, who ran away from contact.
     
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  13. Disgustipate

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    It's a smart signing for the Redskins, and I think he'll make it out of camp. If you're down to your #3 QB, you're going to be running overwhelmingly anyway. If you already use option-style plays pretty extensively, getting an out and out option quarterback makes sense.

    The Dolphins did a **** job on getting White going as a rusher. 1-2 rushes a game with a rookie player isn't going to allow them to get acclimated to game speed.
     
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  14. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Marvin harrison would take a dive in the middle of the field whenever a defender got near 5 yards. Ginn was no Harrison, but I don't fault skinny guys for avoiding contact. They are there for speed. The defender wants to come up and hurt them. Why let the defender have what they want?


    As for Pat White

    [video=youtube;OOq4b4zydtI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOq4b4zydtI[/video]
     
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  15. FanMarino

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    Its a bit like saying Lance Armstrong is back using his lungs. pointless.
     
  16. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Does anyone want to guess the amount of ****s I give?
     
  17. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    More than all the other people who didn't post in this thread.
     
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  18. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Did you post this in an effort to start some sort of cycle of things people don't give a **** about?
     
  19. FanMarino

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    You are right. But having a "Football Head" and learning your position tells you to slide or take a step less and get out of bounds. Cant diss him on his courage but.....as i see it.....he hasnt shown anything to me regarding his Phins time. That clip is showing me what you should NOT do when you are the Quarterback.Kid has guts but i dont want them spilled. Pat White regardless of his passion and skills wont cut it. And anyway we are talking of the Redskins here. They have what they want at QB.
     
  20. Disgustipate

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    He pretty clearly gets tripped up into the hit.
     
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  21. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah it's as if the defender from behind doesn't swipe his leg or anything.
     
  22. Finfangirl

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    He dropped out of the concussion lawsuit against the nfl....I think he's an idiot.
     
  23. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    no animosity towards the guy. wish him well. He didn't draft himself in the 2nd, we did. hope he makes the team.
     
  24. MikeHoncho

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    Same. Best wishes.
     
  25. ASOT

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    This is exactly what will happen. He's not there for long unless he's exceptional. He's mostly there because Cousins & Grossman can't run the RGIII offense in practice.
     
  26. cdz12250

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    Within reason. But if you're a skinny guy, you're supposed to use your speed to escape and take the ball upfield; get yards after catch. Ginn headed for the sidelines immediately. No guts. Pat White had guts.
     
  27. FanMarino

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    Looking at it again. Yes. Still say he is only there as an RG3 clone regarding practice and drills. Good luck to him. Seriously, but he showed jack when he was a Phin. Wasn't his fault he was picked where he was but its pretty irrelevant when he showed minimal potential.
     
  28. padre31

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    Have folks forgotten his tweet about not wanting to be a Wr?

    IMO, Sparano lacked balls and White was petulant, I don't like the fact he really did not earn this second shot in the league.

    Otherwise wish him well.
     
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  29. Disgustipate

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    What potential was he given the opportunity to show and what should he have shown?

    He was a long term, or even long shot development as a passer, and the Dolphins didn't do anything to help him out as a rusher. 1-2 rushes a game is not acceptable or reasonable to get a rookie going. When he got more than 2 carries, he was averaging 5+ yards a carry.
     
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  30. steveincolorado

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    He finally woke up from that hit?
     
  31. jdang307

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    One is still playing and one guy almost died. Listen to what you are saying.
     
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  32. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you think that way, then no one under a certain size and weight should play professional football, and players who do play should minimize contact. What I am saying is that's not football as we know it, not that trying to gain yards is more important than a player's life. Taking your logic to its extreme, they should play two hand touch in the NFL.

    The fact remains that Ginn, the guy who is still playing, prioritizes avoiding contact over gaining yards, so that plays to him end prematurely and are less productive. He hasn't amounted to much as a wide receiver. White, the guy who almost died, received the kind of unusual, catastrophic hit that makes football a dangerous sport to play, and is fortunately the exception rather than the rule. He's back in the league, though. Have to admire that.
     
  33. jdang307

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    Ted Ginn caught many passes in the middle. I've seen big supposedly tough guys avoid contact when all they needed was a yard. Ginn was amplified because he was on our team.

    You don't return kicks and punt returns down the middle if you are afraid of contact.
     
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  34. Larryfinfan

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    C'mon...Ginn wasn't that bad...yea, he avoided contact, but he was productive despite less than stellar QB play here and being played as a #1 when he wasn't that...You make it sound like he ALWAYS ran for the sidelines... He'd have never stayed in the league for 7 yrs with that attitude... Was he worth a #9 pick, in hindsight, no.... Pat White may have had guts, but those guts got him drummed out of the league... He was frail as a player...not a knock, just a fact at that time...has he improved his strength and stamina ?? Who knows, we're guessing... Was he worth where we took him....no again...but he wasn't productive at all for us during his short tenure here either...
     
  35. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well of course. If he'd been on another team, I wouldn't have cared. I just remember the frustration when he ran for the sidelines. I do agree that nobody who steps out on an NFL field is a coward. I was just disappointed. We did give the no. 9 pick for him with the idea that he was going to be a WR. WRs can't be hearing footsteps and they have to try to get YAC.
     
  36. jdang307

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    Yeah but it happens on every team. His draft position is his draft position, but it wasn't his fault. He should have never been our #1 that's for sure. I think he's a good #3 and a PR/KR.

    I've said it before, but if you watched Marvin Harrison he would also flop in the middle. He was Marvin Harrison though so you didn't see that often because he was just so damn good nobody was near him.
     

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