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Parcells likes lemon

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by marco_r31, Dec 24, 2007.

  1. Captain lou

    Captain lou New Member

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    He will all offseason and preseason to do that. We don't know right now. There are essentail things a young qb must have to lean on to have success. A good running attack and a good te. Injuries made impossible for us. Cam threw him to he wolves but he had no choice. Parcells knows what he's doing. I understand this game very well but I think we can all agree Parcells is by far the best authority when it comes to giving Beck the proper evaluation. All I can say "GO FINS". Let's win our last game.
     
  2. black_child

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    I just added this

    Vince Young was a rookie and played better and Lemon barely has even played ever thought of that??? I never said Beck wont be the future I just said he's not as good as Lemon and you cant defend someone who is playing like crap whether he just came into the game or not he's still crap... He so far has been the worst rookie to start this year...

    Read all my post I never said Beck wont be great I'm just saying time doesnt mean he's going to be as great as you want him to be.... Time doesnt mean your going to get a Dan Marino.... What if Beck keeps on playing bad???? what then.... Problem is both last year and this year the rookies have actually been doing better then Beck and look alot better and more confident Beck just looks scared.
     
  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    McNabb went to 4 straight NFC championship games, losing three of them, the tag "Can't win the big one" would seem to fit on him as well as it did Danny White for the Cowboys in the early 80's.

    Vince Young has been in the NFL what, 2 years? The Titans are on the brink of going to the playoffs, if he leads them to a win against the Colts they are in, so he has that coveted chance to prove himself out on the field.

    Now an apples to apples comparision between Lemon and Beck and there is no comparison, Lemon is a far better QB, hands down, Beck is green green green, Lemon at least can move around, and has shown the big arm, and he can read a Blitz coming much faster then Beck can.

    Lemon has started one game in 2006, and 6 games or so this year, he has shown more then Beck has, but that is not much of a comparison as the team is so beat down right now.
     
  4. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Perfect.I agree with all of that.
     
  5. MelbournePhin

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    if lemons calling is to be a starting qb, he will get his chance somewhere.
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Curious MelbournePhin, do you see a Free Agent QB who can work cheaply enough and who can start for us next season?

    I've looked at the FA Qb list, it is not impressive..at all..Shaun Hill? Chris Redmond? Daunte Culpepper?

    Who...
     
  7. black_child

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    I'm not sure if Lemon can be a starting QB I'm not sure if I see it in him... He just wont have the time to. He's been put in a bad situation and hasnt had enough playing time to develop in the right way... He'll definetly have his shot next year but both him and Beck have been put in a situation were their organization wants to win quickly... I think Parcells needs to trade the 1st round pick for alot of picks probably with the Cowboys and get like 5 picks from them including both first rounders... More picks will help to build the team faster.
     
  8. MelbournePhin

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    good question. billy volek?
     
  9. MelbournePhin

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    not sure we can get 5 picks, but im on board with you on trading down. would be nice if we could swap picks with a team like detroit who badly needs a rb and pick up more picls along the way
     
  10. padre31

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    Depends, Volek may want starter money himself, I don't know if that would be an upgrade over Lemon?

    Guy I like is the Jets third string Qb, Tuisasospau, started for the Raiders, been in the league awhile, should be reasonably priced Mobile as well.

    But that would still leave us a First String Qb short, and that is why I can see Cleo returning next year, we have payed him to start 7 games for us, he has improved a bit, and sadly, there may not be anyone else out there for us to sign and bring in....
     
  11. MelbournePhin

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    gotta go with beck IMO. what good is a vet gonna do for us next year? we arent gonna win anything anyway
     
  12. Swampfox

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    Volek already knows Cam's system. He did well when he was a Titan and if Cleo doesn't come back I would be happy with him. Yes , I do think hes better than cleo.
     
  13. padre31

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    What if Cam doesn't come back?
     
  14. Bonedoc7777

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    until the franchise QB is developed we need a guy that can win games, cleo may be it
     
  15. MrClean

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    BP won't be coaching here, but when he was with the Jets, he was the only head coach who could win games with Ray Lucas and actually had him looking like a decent QB. Good enough that we signed him as a RFA. Only problem though was that Parcells didn't come along to coach him here too. Maybe Bill sees some similariites between Lemon and Lucas.
     
  16. padre31

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    Good point, but then again, the Dolphins have made some terrible Qb's look like Aikman and Young.......
     
  17. dolfan_uk

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    as much as ive seen Cleo makes some duff choices this year, He is what he is. A Back Up.

    Im not sure how long Beck will take to blossom. but if he isnt the answer and lemons a number 3. i hope who ever comes to Miami at QB is a leader.:glare:
     

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