Omar: "It's GO Time"

YEP! I'll be watching on WFTV-channel 9 out of Orlando! It took some time to find out but I finally remembered that station showed it last year too. Terribly Bucs-jaded but atleast they are showing the game.

 

Our first string offense struggled to do anything last year. Our first string defense looked really freaking good. In fact they looked dominating.

Once the regular season started, the offense actually played pretty decent after a few games and the defense went to ****.

 

When it was first string defense versus first string offense, Miami's defense donimated.

Heck, even if you do not agree with that, they at least looked better than worst running defense in the league, which what they turned out to be.

 

I think a lot of that had to do with us wearing out in the second half, poor conditioning, etc.

 

Unfortunately its a partisan Bucs broadcast with the ever lovable Jaws doing the commentary

 

That probably had something to do with it. Another thing you cannot see in Preseason.

 

rather than being 1. rude, and 2. incompetent, i always leave room for correction. dont tell me I, or what fails when you dont know for sure, nor take the tme to see if you're correct. Its what you THINK you remember vs. what I THINK I remember. Let's see how it happenned.

http://www.nfl.com/schedules?seasonType=PRE&season=2007&week=-1#Week


game 1: starters give up 10 points, though back-ups come back to win 18-17. not dominant. Fred Taylor and MJD combine for 4 carries. didn't exactly test our run defense.

game 2: hapless KC and Miami only see some quality player action at the hands of Brodie Croyle, who throws a TD against our mesh of 1st/2nd teamers. Scrubs comeback to win again though, 11-10. With LJ unsigned, our first teamers faced 11 run plays.


game 3 : a barn burner seeing our starters down 17-14 a the half. Cadillac's 4 for 25 trumps our own Ronnie's 6 for 18 in the Auburn bowl. we go on to lose besides a nice 2TD game by Beck in the 2nd half.

game 4: yeah the starters sit, but hey, its the best of the rest, and the saint's rest comes out of the gate against our best and marches right down the field and scores. there will be no more scoring as we lose 7-0. side-note: Saints rush for over 160 yds.

What is remotely close to dominant? When push came to shove, our first team units, O and D failed in every game. Not once did we lead, nor were we even tied throughout all of preseason, heading into half-time. Sure our first teamers allowed low rushing yardage, that unit was facing an avg of 8 or 9 attempts a game!

Don't tell me my memory fails. Its like telling me I'm wrong. It's obnoxious and foolish, and happens way too often on here. This is a message board. Tell me you THINK I'm wrong. You're entitled to that, while you're obligated to show a little courtesy.

 

game 1: Starters played one series. Backups gave up 10 points

game 2: Starters shut out as they played one quarter

game 3: Starters give up 10 points. 7 points were from a 2 yard touchdown pass by Trent Green to Cato June.

 

my main point is about the fact that preseason isn't always the best indicator for season success or even if a person is a starter or not.

There are offensive players over the years that looked good in the preseason, such as Charlse Jordan

 

Then why did you join the arguement? So I am saying fish sticks best tasting fried seafood and you chime in with, "Mmm I like french fries".

No, it is not a good one. If it was John Kitna would be one of the best QBs of all time.

 

Tex, the best I can tell you is to listen to the game on www.wqam.com. That's what I had to do last preseason. It sucks not seeing it but hearing the play by play and then seeing the game the next day is better than nothing at all. Maybe someone else knows more, but at least this can be your fallback plan.

 

1. incorrect
2. unsupported
3. worthless

 

1. correct, Cam Cameron was very into not playing his veterans
2. correct, I did not know mcClune was a starting linebacker
3. That is an unsubstanciated opinion

 

varying opposing starters played throughout at least 2-3 quarters of each of the first 3 pre-season games. many, if not most starters were in when jacksonville and BL put up 10 on us, and some were in when Croyle scored in KC too. And The Defense allowed 17 points, 7 of which came from the int.

its such a grey thing, arguing last years pre-season. i understand you thought the D looked AWESOME. I though they did not look good. They gave up points and as a team, were part of the reason we got out-played. and it continued right into the regular season.

 

while you guys likely remember specifics far better than I do, I do recall the pervading feeling was that our D was *guaranteed* to be great in that we were fielding a unit that just *had to be better* than the previous season's, with the addition of Porter and Roth stepping into the starting spot over Carter... So in the preseason it was easy to drink the koolaid and say, no worries on the D... Heh, we all see where that went... But that was the feeling at the time, at least for the vast majority of us (I think).