Oklahoma’s No. 1, Bama No. 2 in AP poll

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DonShula84DonShula84StaffOP
Sep 28, 2008, 04:44 PM

The Sooners sit atop the AP Top 25 on Sunday after the first upset-filled weekend of the season gave the media poll a powerful shake. Alabama was both a mover and a shaker, as the Crimson Tide rose to No. 2 after a surprising 41-30 pounding of Georgia.

Previously top-ranked Southern California lost at Oregon State to set the tone for a weekend that brought back memories of the topsy-turvy 2007 season.

On Saturday, two more top-five teams fell. Florida was stunned at home by Mississippi, 31-30. Georgia, which started the season No. 1, was down 31 points by halftime to Alabama and never recovered.

Overall, nine ranked teams lost, six to unranked foes.

LSU is No. 3, moving up two spots. No. 4 Missouri, which received a first-place vote, and No. 5 Texas also moved up two places and left the top five under the control of the Big 12 (three teams) and Southeastern Conference (two).

Penn State moved up six spots to No. 6 after its 38-24 victory against Illinois.

Texas Tech was idle, but took advantage of the attrition in the top 10 to move up to No. 7. BYU is eighth, USC dropped eight spots to No. 9 and South Florida is No. 10

Oklahoma's No. 1, Bama No. 2 in AP poll - College Football - Rivals.com

sking29sking29Forum Veteran
Sep 28, 2008, 04:57 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

Oklahoma's No. 1, Bama No. 2 in AP poll - College Football - Rivals.com

Well I don't think anyone can deny that Saban is a great college coach. We may not like it but its true.

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BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:04 PM

Penn St just shy from being in the top 5.

finswin56finswin56New Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:06 PM

That makes me feel a little better about our polls.

EDIT: Eh, never mind. Just saw USA Today poll and Bama is 4th :nono:

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Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:21 PM

Even more proof that the public hates Ohio State....

Before the season started Ohio State was ranked ahead of Florida, they both have one loss and granted OSU lost big but it was to the #1 team in the country on the road!! UF lost at home to a an unranked and frankly bad team...so how doyou justify that?

Sep 28, 2008, 05:24 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Even more proof that the public hates Ohio State....

Before the season started Ohio State was ranked ahead of Florida, they both have one loss and granted OSU lost big but it was to the #1 team in the country on the road!! UF lost at home to a an unranked and frankly bad team...so how doyou justify that?

The only game you guys looked good in was against Youngstown St. Florida has at least beat some team we've heard of.

StitchesStitchesLuxury Box
Sep 28, 2008, 05:27 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Even more proof that the public hates Ohio State....

Before the season started Ohio State was ranked ahead of Florida, they both have one loss and granted OSU lost big but it was to the #1 team in the country on the road!! UF lost at home to a an unranked and frankly bad team...so how doyou justify that?

That #1 team you cite lost to an unranked OSU team after whooping on the other OSU, and that is how it is justified. :up:

:tongue2:

Honestly though, I haven't seen much Florida play, but Ohio State has not looked impressive at all all year IMO, and doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 regardless of one loss.

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Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:31 PM

You cant justify FLA being ranked two spots ahead of Ohio State after a loss that from a REALISTIC standpoint was way worse than ours.

If OSU was ranked below UF before the year started fine...sorry but that makes no sense.

Not that it matters but Im just sayin.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:32 PM

We don't deserve to move up, the defense sucks.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:33 PM

"Stitches wrote:

That #1 team you cite lost to an unranked OSU team after whooping on the other OSU, and that is how it is justified. :up:

:tongue2:

Honestly though, I haven't seen much Florida play, but Ohio State has not looked impressive at all all year IMO, and doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 regardless of one loss.

If you didnt think they were top 10 material before the year then fine..but if you had them as the #3 team in the country and there only loss was to the #1 team in the country on the road??? Doesnt make sense.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:34 PM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

We don't deserve to move up, the defense sucks.

Could be true but a win in Madison and a Penn State victory may change your mind.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:35 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

The only game you guys looked good in was against Youngstown St. Florida has at least beat some team we've heard of.

They also lost at home to someone we havent heard of :up:

Sep 28, 2008, 05:37 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

If you didnt think they were top 10 material before the year then fine..but if you had them as the #3 team in the country and there only loss was to the #1 team in the country on the road??? Doesnt make sense.

I think it's more than obvious that they didnt deserve the #3 ranking at the beginning of the year, and that the voters arent taking the preseason mistake into consideration at this point.

StitchesStitchesLuxury Box
Sep 28, 2008, 05:38 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

If you didnt think they were top 10 material before the year then fine..but if you had them as the #3 team in the country and there only loss was to the #1 team in the country on the road??? Doesnt make sense.

I could give two ****s about preseason rankings. I think they are garbage and should be done away with. No one should be ranked until at least week 4. All the preseason rankings do is bog down the voting process, because no one (most of the time) actually wants to vote on anything outside of the "powerhouses." Rarely are teams moved around w/o losses, even if other teams look far more impressive.

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178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

StitchesStitchesLuxury Box
Sep 28, 2008, 05:40 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

They also lost at home to someone we havent heard of :up:

You've not heard of Ole' Miss?

They are at least an FBS team, and it was a conference game at that.

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178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:40 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

I think it's more than obvious that they didnt deserve the #3 ranking at the beginning of the year, and that the voters arent taking the preseason mistake into consideration at this point.

So in your opinion if Ohio State goes to Madison and gets a win you dont think they should be in the top ten?

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:41 PM

"DonShula84 wrote:

I think it's more than obvious that they didnt deserve the #3 ranking at the beginning of the year, and that the voters arent taking the preseason mistake into consideration at this point.

If Beanie doesn't get hurt Ohio St blows out Ohio, and scores atleast 2 times vs USC. Ohio St is a different team with Beanie on offense. Granted we still get killed just not as bad.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:41 PM

"Stitches wrote:

You've not heard of Ole' Miss?

They are at least an FBS team, and it was a conference game at that.

In my opinion they are as "heard of" as Minnesota so take thast for what it is.

finswin56finswin56New Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:42 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

You cant justify FLA being ranked two spots ahead of Ohio State after a loss that from a REALISTIC standpoint was way worse than ours.

If OSU was ranked below UF before the year started fine...sorry but that makes no sense.

Not that it matters but Im just sayin.

There's your problem. Preseason polls are absolutely useless, and mean even less. All they tell you is what someone, somewhere thinks of a team before they've even seen them. Preseason polls have no merit whatsoever, and are down right harmful when used to try and figure out where a team should be ranked today.

Besides, no need to fret, OSU is ahead of UF in the USA Today poll :wink2:

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Sep 28, 2008, 05:42 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

So in your opinion if Ohio State goes to Madison and gets a win you dont think they should be in the top ten?

I didnt say that...right now, after how they've look vs who they've played, they dont deserve to be anywhere near the top 10 is what I'm saying.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:44 PM

"finswin56 wrote:

There's your problem. Preseason polls are absolutely useless, and mean even less. All they tell you is what someone, somewhere thinks of a team before they've even seen them. Preseason polls have no merit whatsoever, and are down right harmful when used to try and figure out where a team should be ranked today.

Besides, no need to fret, OSU is ahead of UF in the USA Today poll :wink2:

I would agree that even now the polls are somewhat irrelevant I was just pointing out the media's hate for OSU.

StitchesStitchesLuxury Box
Sep 28, 2008, 05:46 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

I would agree that even now the polls are somewhat irrelevant I was just pointing out the media's hate for OSU.

I don't think it is hate, as much as not trying to repeat the same mistakes of the past.

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178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

finswin56finswin56New Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:47 PM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

I would agree that even now the polls are somewhat irrelevant I was just pointing out the media's hate for OSU.

Dude, kill it with the victim complex, and look at where you were freaking ranked before the season even started. If the media hated OSU, you wouldn't have been that high to begin with. You dropped that far because you were embarrassed at USC, plain and simple.

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BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:54 PM

"finswin56 wrote:

Dude, kill it with the victim complex, and look at where you were freaking ranked before the season even started. If the media hated OSU, you wouldn't have been that high to begin with. You dropped that far because you were embarrassed at USC, plain and simple.

Hate to see it but its the truth. If they would have beat USC it would have slienced some of the doubters all it did was prove them right.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Sep 28, 2008, 05:57 PM

"Stitches wrote:

I don't think it is hate, as much as not trying to repeat the same mistakes of the past.

Do you mean Ohio St if they win out should not have a shot at the national title game just because of its recent history? Of course it can't happen unless everyone loses 2 games.

They need to change the BCS because there is a obvious flaw in the system. but you can't punish a team for what has happened in the past. Its not like Ohio St earned it last year it just so happened Oklahoma and WVU decided to choke and let Ohio St fall in.