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Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Motion, Mar 25, 2008.
All the other guys are bums? How much exactly do you know about all the other guys?
I know nothing about any of them, save for Kimbo, Big Country and Wes Sims. How much do YOU know about them?
The fact that nobody's ever heard anything about these guys means something to me:
Let's face it, historically 90% of the guys that have appeared on the show are bums. To me, these dudes on TUF need to prove to the world that they're NOT bums.
Ive heard of Marcus Jones...but alas, hes a bum himself...Kimbo definitely has a shot in the show. i wouldnt say hes the favorite, but a shot he definitely has.
I don't know much about most of them, but I'm not the one that said they were all bums and Kimbo would walk through them all easily. I think thats incredibly naive. Sure they are on the show for a reason and haven't made it to the big time on their own yet but you could say the same for Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, Diego Sanchez, Michael Bisping, Nate Diaz, Joe Stevenson, etc...... at that point in their careers. Just because Kimbo had the "Youtube Backyard Brawler" hype machine working for him does not mean he'll walk through anyone. Of course they are on the show to prove themselves but they are definitely not all bums.
Marcus Jones for example, 1st Round Draft pick by the Bucs in 1996, HW that trains with the Gracie's. I think we all know about Kimbo's ground skills.
John Madsen, who has a wrestling victory over someone you may know......Brock Lesnar. Sure it was in High school but he has the athletic background. Highly decorated college wrestler, football, and track star. Although somewhat inexperienced in MMA at 1-0.
Wes Sims, very experienced fighter who fought the Beast Dan Severn in his first fight. Fought Mir a couple times. Been around quite awhile.
Mike Wessell, former Strength and Conditioning coach for University of Arkansas. Actually signed a 4 fight deal with the UFC before accepting a spot on TUF.
As mentioned, Big Country who has plenty of experience and can stand with Kimbo easily.
And last but not least Justin Wren, 2 time Texas State Prep Wrestling Champion, 2 Time Prep All American, and National Champion. 2 Time Greco Roman Wrestling All American and National Champion, which earned him a scholarship to the Olympic Training Center to train for the Olympics. MMA record 6-1.
So I think its pretty obvious, no one is gonna "walk through" this group.
this could be a good one!
Marcus Jones had a pretty good career starting opposite Simeon Rice on those wicked Bucs defenses. Former 1st round pick.
But he did get knocked out here locally about a year ago.
I was at that fight. and the fight before it where he won. He showed absolutely 0 hands in his 2 fights. and he didnt show any wrestling skills either, even though he trains with the Gracie camp. Hes a bum, plain and simple.
Okay, strike him off my list.
John Madsen beat Lesnar in a wrestling match 15 years ago in high school? Big whoop.
Wes Sims, he's one of the guys we all know about. He's a bum.
Mike Wessel, strength and conditioning coach, huh? The fact that the guy works out professionally doesn't mean **** to me. It means that he is an in-shape bum.
Big Country can stand with the best of them for about 3 minutes, when his fat *** gasses. Bum.
Justin Wren, looks as if he has a very good wrestling pedigree. He'll have to show us if he can make the transition to MMA, and if he has any talent striking. Out of all the guys you listed, he is the biggest threat.
BTW, I didn't say Kimbo WOULD walk through them ALL. I said that IF Kimbo has improved his takedown defense and ground game at all (to above the rudimentary level he has shown us to date), he SHOULD be able to walk through most of these dudes easily. I stand by my assessment.
So let me get this straight.
If a fighter isn't signed to UFC, he is a bum?
Yes now your catching on!
Where did you see that? I never said that, nor intimated that.
Here's what I said in a previous post: 90% of the guys that have appeared on the show are bums.
So, get this straight - the overwhelming majority of guys who appear on TUF are bums. And that, my good sir, is a fact.
Not surprised Carano get beat she was just a hot female fighter didnt think she could take on that manish looking thing.
Gina's actually a good fighter. Santos is just on another level.
How about Babalu getting smashed quickly by that kid?
hilarious considering babalu is being used to market EA's mma game....and hes some big name....and he got absolutley mauled by this 24 yr old kid. i love it
Mousasi is very good. You'll see him in the UFC when his contract with Strikeforce runs out, guaranteed.
Carano is the Danica Patrick of MMA; mediocre fighter that gets MAJOR attention because of her looks. Cyborg completely overwhelmed her.
At least Carano didn't run out of the cage like that douche Forrest Griffin...
99% of fighters dont run out of the cage like that douche forrest griffin.......
Mousasi is a beast.
Thats a fact.
Ok, so this is going to sound hypocrtical, especially with who I have on my sig, but Cyborg has to be taking some kind of HGH, or something. She's just too strong for a woman of her size.
How did you feel, watching the women of your dreams get a beat down, eric?
I was listening to an interview about a month ago, with Gina's x. He says that she isnt taking this serious and half assing the training.
It was hard...I was drunk and screaming bad bad things at Cyborg...
I'm pretty sure that's a man.
Honestly there wasn't a huge difference in strength Cyborg is just a better athlete.
hypocrite and sexist. No wonder so many women are after you
If Gina would take it seriously, she would be unbelievable.
Cyborg overwhelmed Gina for much of the fight but Gina had opportunities. After the takedown Gina was in the mount position. You have to be able to finish from there. If Gina had hooked her legs immediately she could have maintained her position and pounded Cyborg incessantly or forced a submission.
Women like the mean ones..what can I say?
UFC 103 Undercard on Spike live!
wow dana seriously gives the fans what they want
About friggin time!
I mean, nobody else has ever done that I don't think. But half the time I'm more interested in the undercard than some of the televised fights. They should do this every time!
My boy Eric 11-3 is fighting tonight in the Sun Dome vs Greg Loughran 17-11. The "Kimbo Killer" their labeling him..Seth Petruzelli is fighting in the card to. no names, but ill contest, MMA is like sex. even some of the fights that arent the best lookin, turn out to be some of the best shows.
Ill be there! should be a fun show at least.
I would have gone had the Dolphins not been playing. Nothing supersedes the Phins.
The headliner beat Frank Mir three years ago.
well the Dolphins game isnt on tv in our area. so come sunday at 1 ill be watching the phins like the regular season.
But it is available live via other methods.
I refuse to be shut out.
Actually Affliction aired there undercards on HDnet, makes you wonder if that is where the UFC got the idea now that they are on the same team.
not a great card saturday night, some real bums fought in that card in the Sun Dome. Seth Petruzelli looked good, but outside of him, Eric and the Greg kid Eric fought were the only 2 impressive fighters that night. Eric won by TKO late in the 1st round. Greg kid looked impressive though, guess he used to spar with Micky Ward, his stand up was really impressive. first person ive seen stand up and hang with Eric before. but it still ended with him on his back and eric punching him out.
i felt like after watching the heavy weight fights i should put 20 lbs of muscle on and get in the ring because my hands were far better then any heavy weight that night. terrible...all in all i wouldnt of waisted any more had i not known someone, so its a good thing you didnt go Muck. $30 was the cheapest ticket
Rampage is going to be BA Barracus in the A-Team movie!
Good choice. Rampage will do really well with that role.
WEC nearing merge with UFC
Well we all know he likes to wear chains.