Official Dolphin/college QB watch... and all things saturday football day.

Stanford just playing with the huskies, no competition..Luck havin a blast lining up wide in the wildcat..Cardinals over 300 yards rushing, Luck toying with their defense..Stanford is bad ass football team..can't wait to see how this BS bcs plays out..If that dude doesn't get a chance to compete in the biggest game, it should be enough to shut that scam down..

Announcers proclaim that there is no chance Luck is going back to school.

ESPN says if Stanford holds it's 25+ point lead, it will be their 10th straight, which no team has ever done in the AP Poll era. Yes they play "easier" teams, but that is still incredibly difficult.

I almost don't want to watch Luck anymore, because if we don't get him I'll be that much more disappointed.

"djphinfan wrote:

Announcers proclaim that there is no chance Luck is going back to school.

What if Luck finishes undefeated but doesn't get to play for a national championship? What if he plays for a title game but loses? Or what if he blows out a knee or shoulder during his bowl game?

Personally, I'd consider returning for a chance at a championship instead of going to an 0-16 or 1-15 NFL team, especially if that team has a serious question mark at GM, HC, OC, QB coach, fan base. The money will be there, especially if he takes out an insurance policy, but another shot at a national title won't. If you're a competitor, you play for the game, not the money, so I'd strongly consider one more year at a title shot over a broken NFL franchise in the middle of a rebuild. Plus he can still refuse to play for the team picking #1 if he does come out, and IMO there's a MASSIVE drop off between Luck and Barkley.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

What if Luck finishes undefeated but doesn't get to play for a national championship? What if he plays for a title game but loses? Or what if he blows out a knee or shoulder during his bowl game?

Personally, I'd consider returning for a chance at a championship instead of going to an 0-16 or 1-15 NFL team, especially if that team has a serious question mark at GM, HC, OC, QB coach, fan base. The money will be there, especially if he takes out an insurance policy, but another shot at a national title won't. If you're a competitor, you play for the game, not the money, so I'd strongly consider one more year at a title shot over a broken NFL franchise in the middle of a rebuild. Plus he can still refuse to play for the team picking #1 if he does come out, and IMO there's a MASSIVE drop off between Luck and Barkley.

absolutely on the dropoff...but if he goes undefeated and gets snubbed, then where is the hope to come back and play when you will get snubbed again by the computers.

"djphinfan wrote:

absolutely on the dropoff...but if he goes undefeated and gets snubbed, then where is the hope to come back and play when you will get snubbed again by the computers.

Then maybe he's an activist and decides to stay to help make a difference in NCAA football. :tongue2:

What better way to help change the BCS system than to have a guy like Luck <on a team like Stanford's> be snubbed from a national championship opportunity and then return for his senior year? He's too high profile to hypothetically screw him over a 2nd time.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

Then maybe he's an activist and decides to stay to help make a difference in NCAA football. :tongue2:

What better way to help change the BCS system than to have a guy like Luck <on a team like Stanford's> be snubbed from a national championship opportunity and then return for his senior year? He's too high profile to hypothetically screw him over a 2nd time.

I find it sad how much you wish it happens so we can resign Henne in the offseason and roll with that bum.

Barkley looked good tonight. He's still erratic at times, but I think guys like Luck and Weeden spoil us.

Since the beginning of last season with NC State, keep watching Wilson thinking, this guy is 4 inches from being a superstar. Shame

"R&R Express wrote:

I find it sad how much you wish it happens so we can resign Henne in the offseason and roll with that bum.

I thought I was the only who noticed that, lol.

Luck isn't returning, though. He said it himself. Our only worry is if he declines to play for us. That's why it is imperative we begin our off season with the right Front Office and coaching staff.

"R&R Express wrote:

I find it sad how much you wish it happens so we can resign Henne in the offseason and roll with that bum.

he doesn't want that, he wants Luck as bad as anyone, he's just protecting the image of the team, like we all should be, just in case.

Russell wilson is a great football player..Just brought the badgers back down two td's, in unbelievable fashion...

"Nappy Roots wrote:

Since the beginning of last season with NC State, keep watching Wilson thinking, this guy is 4 inches from being a superstar. Shame

I know damn it, and it pisses me off to no end, lol....damn his parents..

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Barkley looked good tonight. He's still erratic at times, but I think guys like Luck and Weeden spoil us.

whatta you mean X?

Cousins has looked good tonight.

Wow MSU just won on a last second hail mary

"Nappy Roots wrote:

Wow MSU just won on a last second hail mary

Amazing finish in that game.

The Cousins Miracle.

"R&R Express wrote:

I find it sad how much you wish it happens so we can resign Henne in the offseason and roll with that bum.

I find it sad that you're so blind & ignorant to think that. :wink2:

"R&R Express wrote:

I find it sad how much you wish it happens so we can resign Henne in the offseason and roll with that bum.

"Anonymous wrote:

I thought I was the only who noticed that, lol.

Luck isn't returning, though. He said it himself. Our only worry is if he declines to play for us. That's why it is imperative we begin our off season with the right Front Office and coaching staff.

"Noticed"? lol. You didn't notice ****. You might be on the R&R Express ignorant train, but that's about it.

Generally speaking, if 2 idiots believe the same thing, it doesn't make it true; it only makes it 2 idiots believing the same thing.

Man, that miralce hail mary was amazing. Kirk Cousins was pretty good today, too.

The ghost of Jim Caldwell possessed Bret Bielema to call that horrible timeout on the last drive.

Crazy ass play though. A big FU to opponents of instant replay as well.

"djphinfan wrote:

he doesn't want that, he wants Luck as bad as anyone, he's just protecting the image of the team, like we all should be, just in case.

Russell wilson is a great football player..Just brought the badgers back down two td's, in unbelievable fashion...

You ain't convincing me, that's for sure. Everytime the word luck is mentioned, it's the same thing. I'm no rocket scientist, but I can put 2 and 2 together.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

"Noticed"? lol. You didn't notice ****. You might be on the R&R Express ignorant train, but that's about it.

Generally speaking, if 2 idiots believe the same thing, it doesn't make it true; it only makes it 2 idiots believing the same thing.

Throwing out insults now? Cool story. Perhaps you should expend that energy on more worthwhile causes, like admitting Henne blows, Luck isn't staying in school, and that Luck gives 2 ****s about "Suck4Luck" campaigns. I'm sure it would make everyone happier in the end than to watch you frantically hoping and praying Luck stays in school or demands a trade in order to spite us real fans tired of watching this team blow every year because of Chad Henne and the other losers we've had at QB since Marino retired. No hard feelings though, message board insults don't phase me.

Originally Posted by R&R Express
I find it sad how much you wish it happens so we can resign Henne in the offseason and roll with that bum.

he doesn't want that, he wants Luck as bad as anyone, he's just protecting the image of the team, like we all should be, just in case.

Russell wilson is a great football player..Just brought the badgers back down two td's, in unbelievable fashion...

This organization has done a good enough job of ****ing up their image all by themselves. Nothing the fans do, including wanting Luck (which is really what this is about) is gonna change that.

I still don't understand the problem with Suck For Luck. If its the name you don't like, we can always change it to "Let's root for our team to win even though they're not very good, and will probably lose anyway, but just in case let's want them to win meaningless games so if they lose we can look respectable as fans (and draft Andrew Luck.)"

Though I don't think that's quite as catchy.

Personally, I'd consider returning for a chance at a championship instead of going to an 0-16 or 1-15 NFL team, especially if that team has a serious question mark at GM, HC, OC, QB coach, fan base.

I know I shouldn't bother, but if you're a number one pick (as Luck is projected this season and next I assume) then the team picking you is going be 0-16, 1-15 or something pretty close. There will either be a new HC (you don't know who our next HC is) or you have a HC who finished with the worst record. Every fan base with the worst team in the NFL isn't going be as strong as winning teams, etc. The team that picks Luck, barring a huge trade, will suck and have problems. Period. When we get our new HC and GM then we can have better discussions about the shape of our franchise.

As far as doubling up, not a fan DJ unless you mean like a 5th rounder or lower developmental guy. We have more needs than just QB and going need to use that high 2nd and high 3rd pick wisely to strengthen the team. If you're picking a QB top 5 then you have conviction he is your franchise QB, have to live and die by that decision. If you're unsure to the point of where you need an insurance plan, then think you have to pick another position or trade down. I feel ya on needing to shore up this position once and for all though.