****Official 2012 MIAMI MARLINS Thread****

That's my point. He developed a new sinker, and used it more. It was a new pitch, and he didn't get many swing and misses with it.

I agree. The closer tag is overrated. However, we didn't have a Venters/Kimbrel type of pitcher to add to the bullpen. We have nice pieces, but not Kimbrel/Venters. They were dominant in the minor leagues. We could use Mujica, but with the signing of Bell, this gives us a dominant bullpen and more depth.

Why isn't it going to work out? Just because he's going to pitch a max of 80 innings or so? That's poor logic. So, when Venters/Kimbrel get too expensive, should the trade them? Should Rivera have been traded years ago? Should every dominant reliever be traded once they get too expensive?

He'll prove whether or not the deal was worth it with his performance on the baseball field, not with your approval.

 

Because the track record for RPers signing deals 3 years or more have never worked out unless that pitcher was Mariano Rivera. And again maybe it's just me (or most non-Marlin fans) but I just don't think Bell is going to perform to his past level for the next 3 (or 4 years). And no Rivera shouldn't have been traded years ago but that's because the guy is just super human and an exception to the rule. Otherwise yes I'd use Kimbrel/Venters/Papelbon/who ever and once they became FAs if they're asking for crazy money/years I'd let them walk and be confident that I have guys in the minors, on my team already or a guy I could get cheap as a FA or via a trade. I just think it's a waste of payroll to give these guys that much for throwing a max of 80 innings all for a silly "save" stat.

And again I still don't understand how a guy develops a new pitch yet the pitch doesn't generate any positive results in terms of what the pitch should be doing (getting more ground balls) and yet he continues to use it which generates a negative result (hitters putting the ball in play). Why go with that pitch, what was wrong with his original fastball that he's had past success with? It just doesn't seem like a smart idea. It just sounds strange to me, doesn't make much sense. Call me crazy but I want my RPers striking out guys, not pitching to contact.

And yes obviously he's going to be the one that proves whether or not the deal was worth it, not me or anyone else.

 

Not every contract for a relief pitcher goes wrong. Bell can easily be the exception.

I agree with you on not signing relief pitchers to a large contract. I do. Last season, we didn't have a high salary pitcher and our bullpen was fine. The Marlins, however, decided to sign pretty much a sure thing in Bell instead of risking it with Broxton/Ceda/Cishek/any other reliever. There is nothing wrong with that.

What do you want me to tell you about the slider? I don't know why he added it. He just did. My point is the new pitch could be the reason why his K/9 declined. Hopefully, in Miami, he'll get away from that. Still, it's impressive that he still found a way to dominate while seemingly regressing in K/9.

 

That's got to be the winning bid. The Mets supposedly wouldn't go over $90 mill and there doesn't seem like many other suitors at this point. So unless he just wants to stay in NY, looks like he's coming to Miami.

 

$111m? That’s $21m too much, IMO. But hey, it’s not my money, it’s squirreled-away revenue sharing dough.

 

I don' care anymore about the offers or the money or whatever. Just sign everyone. If they manage to sign Bell, Reyes, Buehrle and trade for say Gio Gonzalez, we're going to the playoffs.

 

[video=youtube;MrTsuvykUZk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk[/video]

 

...someone taking his talents to Little Havana, joining Mr. Ramirez and joining the Miami Marlins?

 

So Buster Olney tweeted that the Marlins agreed to a deal with Hanley Ramirez. I’m not making this up. Okay, so he deleted that and corrected by saying the Marlins agreed with Jose Reyes, but still. Olney is such low hanging fruit one can’t help but pick.

Anyway, while I’m still lukewarm on Jose Reyes for reasons posted earlier in the thread, it’s refreshing and heartening to see this franchise open up the wallet.

 

We're the favorites for Buehrle.

 

"They are not signing anybody..it is all a scam."

and they are also the favs to land Pujols....

 

This.

I’m hereby requesting that the thread title be edited to the following:

“The 2012 Miami Marlins: If you are Hispanic, we will pay you!”

 

Lmao.

First the Miami Heat. Then the Miami Marlins.

Your move, Miami Dolphins!

 

“Get a load of this franchise right tackle! And this awesome defensive end! And A NEW GUARD! Man, we are awesome. Come to our games. The only Heat you need happens Sunday at 1 PM!"

 

If only Omar Minaya was your GM this post would be that much better (and truer). Still though, well played.

 

Did you watch the Pitbull concert slash Miami Marlins unveiling event? This franchise is now explicitly targeting the Hispanic demographic, and they apparently think one of the most important ways to do that is to sign as many high-profile Hispanic players as possible, or at least have the franchise associated in reports with those players.

 

Hanley’s agent: No comment

No word on whether or not Pat Riley has signed Albert Pujols yet.

 

Thats a big difference between saying the words "no comment" or not commenting on the story. Maybe, astonishingly enough, Hanley hasnt commented yet?

 

it's no big deal. Hanley told the brass that Reyes is the only SS, he would have moved to 3rd base for.

 

How are they supposed to share the infield? Too many egos in that dugout

 

Next up, Pujols.

We're doing this, men. This is happening.

 

Oh, btw, BigDogsHunt, want to chime in here?

 

No I didn't. But it makes sense though.

 

Sorry, did in the Hot Stove thread....I am impressed it was pulled off 6/106 is reasonable to land him and remake the franchise (along with Bell).

Kudo's for stepping up....Loria backed it up. Hope it works out and he stays healthy!

I dont expect much drama from HanRam and Reyes ( the whole GodParent thing should put any issues to bed)

 

I love you.

 

Jason Starks with some good tweets:

And then this from his ESPN article:

 

Can you imagine the frustration ESPN would have reporting if the Marlins sign Pujols?

If we do, we should have a party, Miami Hear style. Invite Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. No one from the Dolphins, though.

 

Well, it would sure get them an extremely high rating for the opener when Pujols and the new look Marlins play his old team in the new stadium.

 

LoMo says:

I guess he's shocked too.