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offense will attempt to go up-tempo again

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I have to admit I was waiting for this. Last year they trashed this, but with the 2nd year familiarity and stability and health back, I am glad they are going to practice this. Look with this offensive skill set, if defense cannot substitute, the mis-matches will even be more of an advantage, esp LB's covering slot receivers or backs. Year 2 in Denver was record-shattering, and we are planting the seeds here to do that too
     
  2. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    IM worried that this just means we will go three and out more often faster giving our defense less time to rest in turn resulting in point scored against us. I think we need to balance quick temp when needed and work the clock some so certain teams get less touches.
     
  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    agree. i think they will use it certain times
     
  4. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I like the up tempo because it doesn't allow the other team's defense to adjust or sub in players. While I agree that we shouldn't see it for entire games, it is very smart to go no huddle in certain situations with 3-5 plays pre-scripted. Then you step to the line, read the defense and plug in the right play for what you see. To me, this has always been one of Tannehill's greatest strengths and we've never taken advantage of it.
     
  5. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    One thing we will need is the running back being a dual threat, or it will be a waste of time. having a back be able to be a dual threat on a hurry up offense is just plain nasty
     
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  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    The title of the thread is "Offense will attempt to go up tempo", but quote no article nor provide any link in which Dolphins coaching staff state this.

    Is this just your own un-quantifiable opinion or did you just forget to provide a link where you read this?
     
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  7. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    https://www.thephinsider.com/2017/6...-stills-devante-parker-reshad-jones-no-huddle

    sorry didn't know I was writing an term paper
     
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  8. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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  9. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    and I like to form my own opinions so the poster is not totally influenced by the article. it's an idea or thought that could be debated w/o an article

    I could have said "I expect them to go up tempo"
     
  10. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    I think Gase said something about this in his press conference the other day, check it here if you have time:

    https://www.periscope.tv/MiamiDolphins/1ypJdrOOYeaKW?
     
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  11. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    You're missing the point all together
     
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  12. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Not really

    You need a source for every post. I get it


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  13. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Dude, stop.

    If you post an excerpt from or an opinion based on an article, post a link to the article.
     
  14. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Well, when your title says that the offense will attempt to go uptempo again, I think it's completely appropriate to ask where you got this information...whether it's from an article or a quote from a coach, or from something you came up with on your own.
     
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  15. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I could have just said I expect it to go uptempo

    what are we really debating here?
    when does this turn to another RT thread?
     
  16. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    ironically funny, isn't it? In the defunct PoFo, you and I fought left and right but here...it utterly amazes me how many times you and I agree! :wink2:
     
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  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    You're being unreasonable.

    If you had said you expect it, there wouldn;t be a discussion about where you got it but why you thought that.

    You posted something as a fact, it is incumbent on you to provide the source of that fact, especially when asked....OR if you don't want to provide it, then don't but stop getting all butthurt because you were asked.
     
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  18. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    It just goes to show how wrong you were in the PoFo........:king:
     
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  19. danmarino

    danmarino Quarantining like a MoFo Club Member

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  20. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Why are you trying to troll?
     
  21. danmarino

    danmarino Quarantining like a MoFo Club Member

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    Come on guys... Dirty isn't a troll. I agree that I too wanted to read the article/quote that he referenced, but it's not a requirement and not worth arguing over.
     
  22. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Danmarino and I are the only ones that troll


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  23. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    When you try and make it one with a comment like this?

    Ultimately, IMO everyone is right in this case. The thread title sure makes it seem like there will to be some "official" substance here in the form of a quote, or an article etc. Sure, you could have said that you expect them to go up-tempo, and that's totally fine. It then becomes a thread on your opinion. However when your title reads as if it's factual, then yes, everyone here is going to look for the source. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with you making a post based on your opinion on if we go up-tempo or not, just word it that way... Or if you are making an opinion based on an article, or something it helps everyone else understand where you're coming from too.

    That's all they're trying to say... I think. :lol: It's all good.

    I agree though, we really should try and get the up-tempo stuff working again. With some of the guys we have on Offense it should be easy for us to take advantage of mismatches out there, the up-tempo can help us with that so I'd like to see it come back, and I'd like to see the team handle it better than they did last season when it was a failed attempt, because as someone else stated, if you try and go up-tempo, and always go 3 and out, or just don't move the ball well, you're not controlling the clock/game, and you're not really putting your defense in a good spot either.
     
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  24. danmarino

    danmarino Quarantining like a MoFo Club Member

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    Nu-uh...not me
     
  25. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    this team needs to be healthy to do this. and they also need a fast offense and a fast start overall. I hope the team is promoting conditioning over the next several weeks before camp. I am sick of being 0-4 or 1-4. It seems we always start like this
     
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  26. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    I resent that - I try hard at trolling but you don't notice. I get no respect. None. :shifty:
     
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  27. danmarino

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    That's funny. I distinctly remember when it was the opposite. We'd start 4-0, 5-0 and then lose the next 5-6 out of 11...
     
  28. brandon27

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    Agreed. What a great advantage that could be though for us. Away team baking in the sun on their sidelines. Their defense gassed as our offense takes it to them with an up-tempo/no huddle approach just moving the ball consistently, wearing them down. It's a beautiful plan if we can make it work, health and conditioning is key but (and it's with great hesitation that I say this around here) it's going to take the offense, especially Tannehill to be on top of their game and the system. Everyone's got to get lined up, know their assignments, read their keys in order to be successful and keep it going. Communication, preparation and execution will be key from Everyone.
     
  29. rafael

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    IMO and based on some things I heard at the time, the up-tempo was scratched last season b/c they weren't good at it. Now Tannehill has been good at the 2-minute offense in past systems and understood this offense well. But the rest of the offensive players weren't as up to speed and Tannehill wasn't good/fast enough at getting them in position. That slowed down the up-tempo so much that it was useless. It can obviously be an asset. IMO the keys will be having everybody on the same page and Tannehill developing a mastery of the offense and leadership closer to what you you see Peyton and Brady do.
     
  30. jdang307

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    It was very clear they weren't good at it. Those first games were pretty bad. A lot of 3 and outs, defense getting tired etc. Give it up to Gase to scrap it, and start over. Peyton and Brady had years to learn their offenses, and the Manning-Moore offense was ridiculously simple. I can see it in spurts here and there where appropriate (defense is on the ropes, tired, confused etc.). Those two had more than a decade in the same system. I expect us to start slowly with it and as Tanny gets more comfortable start letting some line out.
     
  31. The_Dark_Knight

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    LMAO....whatever you gotta tell yourself Tony...LMAO
     
  32. MikeHoncho

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    Do. Or do not. There is no try.
     
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  33. Conuficus

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    Yoda approves this message.
     
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    Approve this message Yoda does.***
     
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  35. Puka-head

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    And he also NEVER capitalizes the first word in a sentence. And punctuation, please, doubt he can spell it!


    But seriously brah, sources are validation for your point(s), so why wouldn't you post them. And then lazy flippers like me who can't seem to find the time til after 10pm every night west coast can catch up on the news on our favorite forum don't miss a thing. Which I appreciate, a lot. Thank yous.
     
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  36. Puka-head

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    Whats really sad is that we can't even have polite intelligent discourse IRT our public duties. Political debate in this country has devolved in to marches and protests and violence and attempted murder on a little league baseball field because of which team they played for. Used to be a badge of honor in this country, to acknowledge that someone elses beliefs might not be in lock step with yours, but that they were still valid and good, because they were. Makes you want to flippin cry some days don't it.

    I honestly hadn't noticed the POFO shutting down cuz I quit going there during the 2nd Bush administration, and I apologize, I shouldn't have quit. Maybe we could begin to rebuild with the community here. Seems like a fairly open minded group. We certainly are witnessing the results of letting the ones who scream loudest, whichever POV they have win.
     
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  37. Rickysabeast

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    Yeah this is the same thing I heard. Don't forget we'd lost 5 in a row going into the Cleveland game. We had to do something different. Definitely the desire was there to continue up tempo or non-huddle whatever it's called but we were horrible at it.

    Here's my thought. Play at whatever tempo that keeps moving the chains. Sure, I'd like to see us come out and look like the 2000 Rams but let's not lose sight that the point is winning the games. I mean right?

    Given our players, whats the right tempo to take advantage of their best attributes?
     
  38. Conuficus

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    Lol yoda does.
     
  39. KeyFin

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    One thing to remember in the 90's is that with Marino on the field, you had the intelligence of a head coach in the huddle. He was a master of reading the LOS and adjusting on the fly, which is why the no-huddle made sense a lot of the time. Manning is another example- he would see things in the moment that the coaches wouldn't even see.

    So when we're talking up-tempo, the QB has to have the smarts to "see the coverage", make the right play call, inform the team, get everyone lined up and execute...all within a span of about 10 seconds. Not everyone can pull that off, an average NFL quarterback would struggle without lots and lots of reps. It's a tall order to ask of a team consistently and that's why very few do it today. It's also why you see just as many INT's thrown in 2 minute offenses as you do TD's.

    With that said, I do think Tannehill is capable and I finally think he's to the point where he has the leadership qualities and the trust of his receivers.
     

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