Not sold on tannehill

Uh, QB rating = 74.1, YPA = 4.5?

 

How many drops did you have counted today?

 

I didn't count drops, but I'm happy to learn whether there were significantly more than the number for the average team in a game.

 

One shouldn't be sold nor convinced on Tannehill just yet. It's still rather early.

 

One should be neither sold on nor convinced about any rookie QB at this point in his career IMO.

 

I'm guessing his number of turnovers was significantly less than the average team that plays SF.

 

I don't think you're going to find that zero is significantly less than whatever that average is, but as always, I will respect the numbers when they're presented.

 

I'd guess the average is probably around 2 so I'd say that's something of value for a rookie qb to be able to do.

 

If the average were two, assuming a normal distribution, that would mean half the teams they've played have had more than two, which is doubtful. I'd guess the average is more like something between 0.75 and 1.

 

Uh playcalling. How come the 9ers fan in the other thread realized we called a ton of screens and short passes to have Tanny get rid of the ball quickly? Thats on the receivers at that point to get YAC. They didnt so the stats look worse then they should. The Qb did what he was asked.

 

Why's that doubtful when SF is one of if not the best defenses in the league?

Only took 2 sacks all day while starting Martin as well.

 

I would put more stock in that if those numbers represented any sort of significant departure from Tannehill's season averages. The YPA number is a significant departure, but the QB rating is not.

 

There goes Shou back with the QBR stuff as if it's a direct reflection of the QB rather than the passing game as a whole.

Hey Shou, what's Tannehill's QBR if that POS of a starting receiver Hartline for once in his goddam life breaks an open field ankle tackle attempt like a true DECENT primary receiver would? 89.7?? You don't say!!! We would've had a 10-6 lead at half time if your ridiculous excuse for a starting receiver had an ounce of playmaking ability. The YPA is a direct reflection of how terrible your precious duo is as primary targets. TERRIBLE.

 

Rather than go back and forth with you, I simply went and looked it up. They have 10 INTs on the year, in 13 games, which is 0.77 a game.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/passing/position/defense

 

Good now add the forced fumbles to that and we're almost there.

 

LOL. Shou has to "look up" San Fran's stats to see that they're one of the best defenses in the league. If that isn't a sign of a clueless post I don't know what is!!!

 

Then why is that QB rating no higher than the average for rookie QBs, and why are Bess and Hartline doing important things on the field with Tannehill that other receivers are doing only with veteran QBs with much higher QB ratings?

You have a belief you want to espouse repeatedly, and you have no respect whatsoever for any objective evidence that runs counter to it. I won't be responding to you anymore on this topic. We know where you are, and we know it ain't changing.

 

Forced fumbles by the opposing quarterback?

 

I said Tannehill certainly had fewer turnovers than most QBs facing SF. Turnovers include INTs and fumbles.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he took fewer sacks than the average QB as well.

 

You were already on the limb, and it broke.

They've had 12 forced fumbles on the year. How many do you suppose were by the opposing quarterback?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/defense/sort/fumblesForced

 

Why? Because he has Hartline & Bess as starting receivers dragging down his numbers considering WR inadequacy directly affects QBR!!!! He's far from an average rookie QB, so to see his QBR as appearing "average" should tell you just how bad Hart & Bess are as a starting duo!!...... and if that's not bad enough, having to break in a 7th round rookie as the #3 is. Gimme a friggin break.

WTF are they doing that's "important"?!!!! They can barely get open against a good defense, and when they do they can't even break a ****ing weak ankle tackle attempt for what should've been a goddam TD by any competent starting WR!!!!! They're doing very little important, b/c if they were, we'd be moving the ball more consistently and scoring more ****ing points rather than looking for every other avenue inside the redzone!!!!!!!!

 

Idk I asked you since you felt like looking it up. I said he had less than the average QB and he did soooooo..

 

You're on ignore phinsational. Give it up. I can't even see your post, nor do I want to.

 

Uh, you said he had significantly less, which he did not.

 

Oh no.... I'm shaking. It cuts me so deep that someone who obviously has never played the game is ignoring my posts. What shall I do. Point me in the direction of the nearest hemlock bottle.

 

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I'd say it's significant considering Tannehill is a rookie and SF has gone against the likes of Rodgers, Stafford, Eli, and Brees.

But by all means continue to bang the drum for QBR and YPA like they're the be all end all of performance.

 

And by all means, continue to put yourself out on limbs that break.

 

If he could, Shou would scapegoat Peyton Manning for our starting receiver's ineptitude. The last time this country saw such foolishness was during the Salem witch trials.

 

I win at life!!!

 

lol According to who, you?

I'm not too concerned about whether your judgement disagrees w mine. Especially after reading how you think Jake Long just gave up against NE the other day and used the tricep as an excuse when he thought we were out of the game.

 

The numbers disagree with your judgment. How concerned you are about it, I don't care.

 

What "numbers"? LOL.

 

Yes, the numbers you choose to deem as the be all end all.

Not concerned.

 

Wonderful.

 

well I agree with your last sentence.

 

This thread should be binned. What a bunch a rubbish.

 

I think people need to relax a little bit. Its been a weird year for Rookie Qbs, I mean Luck and RG3 are playing like seasoned vets and Russell Wilson is making big plays in Seattle so it looks like Tannehill is behind them, well he might be but that doesn't mean he's a lost cause. Go down the list of HOF Qbs and see how many of them struggled in their 1st year or two, its normal and we just have to work through it. IF Ireland doesn't get the kid a TE and another WR that can get open AND has some speed then there isn't a lot of hope. I have watched most of the games from start to finish and I see a lot of good things from him. Would I have liked to see more "magic", more come from behind plays? Sure but he's so inexperienced and young, I really think our fan base has turned into one of the worst in football after so many years of struggling. We aren't the Jest, we don't throw our young players under the bus without giving them some time.

 

Andrew Luck's QB rating is 76.1, and yesterday against Tennessee it was 50.6. He's playing a lot more like Tannehill than many people believe.

Then again, despite those stats, he's helping his team win a great deal more. See the WPA stat here:

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?year=2012&pos=QB&season=all

 

hahahahaha..... no level Shou won't stoop to scapegoat Tannehill. First his argument revolves solely around QBR........ but then when Shou realizes the greatest prospect of all time has a QBR that's only 2 points different than Tannehill's he starts throwing in extra qualifiers to further purport his original BS excuse-making argument.