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Not good for Miami trade opps with Minnesota

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dgb11112, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. dgb11112

    dgb11112 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 23, 2008
    This does not bode well for moving up and trading JT

    Jared Allen remained in Minnesota all day Saturday as he and his agent negotiated with the Vikings.

    It's uncertain if Allen's financial demands or Chiefs GM Carl Peterson's trade demands are holding up a deal. Either way, it's a good sign for the Vikings that Allen continues to visit. He will have to leave Sunday, but his agent will continue to negotiate.
    Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune
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  2. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

    Mar 22, 2008
    parts unknown, NJ
    Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2008, 8:47 a.m.

    We received a text message and a phone call late Saturday/early Sunday from a league source who shared with us a curious development regarding the Minnesota Vikings’ ongoing efforts to acquire Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen.

    Per the source, the Vikings are “likely” to sign Allen to an offer sheet after next weekend’s draft, if a “fair” trade can’t be worked out before then.

    The move meshes with the idea that came us to like an acorn to a blind squirrel on Saturday. With the Chiefs reportedly wanting a first-round pick and a second-round pick for Allen, why not simply nab Allen with a poison-pilled offer sheet and foist on the Chiefs the Vikings’ first-round picks in 2009 and 2010?

    The fact that the Vikes apparenty plan to pursue this tactic is a strong indication that Allen’s visit to the Twin Cities has resulted in an agreement between the player and the Purple regarding the money that will be paid to the NFL’s sack leader in 2008.

    But there’s a wild card in this scenario. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly interested in Allen, and could be squeezed into besting the Vikings’ pre-draft trade offer if the Bucs know that Allen would otherwise be poised to sign a post-draft offer sheet in Minnesota.

    Then again, if Allen has made up his mind that he wants to play in the land of 10,000 lakes (but hopefully not 0.10 percent BAC), the Bucs will be out of the picture, and the question will be whether the Vikings get him before the draft, or after it.

    A couple of readers have asked us whether the Vikings could sign Allen to an offer sheet right now, since it’s less than seven days before the first day of the draft. But even though a team with a franchise player has up to seven days to decide whether to match an offer sheet that he signs, the team can also decide before the seven days expire to not match it. In this case, doing so would give the Chiefs the Vikings’ first-round picks in 2008 and 2009.

    And since the Chiefs would surely prefer to get extra draft picks for Allen right now (especially since G.M. Carl Peterson might not be around to use picks in 2009 and/or 2010), it’ll be critical for the Vikings to dust off the poison pill, if they want to be sure to acquire Allen. Otherwise, the Vikes will have merely negotiated on the Chiefs’ behalf Allen’s long-term contract to stay in Kansas City.

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  3. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

    Mar 22, 2008
    parts unknown, NJ
    Franchise player Jared Allen left the Twin Cities early Sunday without a deal between the Vikings and Chiefs in place.
    "I can’t really go into anything now outside of how impressed (Jared) has been with the organization here," Allen's agent said. "Myself too. Hope we have reason to talk in a few days." It sounds like Allen will be in Tampa Bay shortly.
    Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune
  4. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

    Mar 22, 2008
    parts unknown, NJ
    Although the bigger issue is whether the Minnesota Vikings and the Kansas City Chiefs can work out a deal for a trade of defensive end Jared Allen’s rights from the Chiefs to the Vikings, the Kansas City Star reports that the Vikes and Allen are close to an agreement as to the long-term deal that would be signed by the player if/when he’s wearing purple.

    And, as we heard on Sunday, the Vikings are likely to sign Allen to an offer sheet after the draft, if the Chiefs and the Vikings can’t work out the terms of a trade.

    While such an approach would risk that the Chiefs will trade Allen elsewhere (such as Tampa), the reality is that, if Allen has decided that he wants to play for the Vikings, he can essentially block a trade to another team by refusing to sign a long-term contract there. Absent a multi-year deal, the team getting Allen would be getting him only for one season.

    Per many published reports, the Vikings are willing to give up a first-round pick and a third-round pick, but the Chiefs want a first-round pick and a second-round pick.

    Allen ended his visit to Minnesota on Sunday. Per league rule, such visits may last only two days.

  5. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

    Nov 22, 2007
    There are other teams that are interested in JT, this isn't going to ruin our chances to trade him. Maybe Allen to Minny makes another team blink and make a deal for Taylor? And the more KC gets in return, the more we can ask for in return. :)
  6. first&goal

    first&goal Luxury Box Luxury Box

    Nov 23, 2007
    I agree with your thinking, maybe the Allen trade to Minny will help the Dolphins to get even more for JT.

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