Not 1 Vote for Joey Porter as Defensive MVP

Where's Demarcus Ware?

 

Why are you surprised ?

Joey didn't record a single sack in the last 3 games. You can't disappear like that and expect to win awards.

 

Porter was extremely overrated this season. He showed up on 18 plays. The rest of the time, you could swear he wasn't even on the field.

 

...he did have that fumble recovery...

 

No, not really.

 

Overall he did have a great year, but not a DPOY year.

 

He deserved at least one vote.

 

yep , that's crazy

 

what did he do to deserve one vote over harrison or ware?

 

i'd be willing to say his game against the patriots earlier in the year was deserved enough for at least one vote. He practically shut down that offense himself.

 

1 game doesn't make a season though. I'm not surprised he didn't receive a vote, if I was voting I would have voted for Reed, Ware, Harrison and Polamalu before Porter as well.

 

i would have taken harrison first then reed (only cause ware didnt make playoffs) then troy then haynesworth then ware

 

Porter had a good year, but his numbers v.s. Harrison and Ware are not even comparable. I may be biased but Ed Reed would have gotten my vote (though he was fighting injury early and wasn't a huge factor until about week6)11 INT's he scored 4 TD's, he Forced, Rovered, and scored with a fumble.

 

Harrison, Ware and Reed all could have won it. Was a really strong year for the award.

The thing about "Joey should have gotten at least one vote", that means somebody would have had to believe he deserved it more than the three guys mentioned above, plus Polamalu. There are no 2nd/3rd place votes. Only votes for who wins.

Nobody believes Porter was better than Harrison, Ware and Reed, right?

Non-issue IMO.

 

Not a 1st place vote......maybe a 4th or 5th place vote, but not a 1st place vote.

 

Bingo! Its not like the voters sit in a room and decide who to vote for. 40 or 50 writers, on their own, decided who they personally thought was the best defender in the league. I wouldn't have voted for Porter, and I'm a total homer. He was amazing this year, but not the absolute best defender!

 

Porter seemed to have a great season to us compared to what he did last season, which we all know was a huge let down. He did play extremely well this year, but he didn't finish strong and there were times even games where he was invisible.

I didn't expect him to win the award, yes he could have got at least one first place vote but i'm not suprised he didn't considering how many other talented defensive players the league has.

Not getting a vote doesn't take anything away from porter this season, he played great for us and was a great mentor and leader for our team. He's going to hawaii (if that counts for much these days) but more importantly he led our young defense back to a winning record and helped develop a lot of our young defensive players the right way, with the right attitude.

 

Joey did deserve at last one vote IMO. Harrison plays on an already excellent defense, as does Ed Reed. Im sure those guys will tell you they benefit from other superior talent around them.

If you replace Harrison with Joey Porter he wins the DPOY.

 

Yeah, but because he would have put up the similar numbers as Harrison. Is your contention that the reverse wouldn't be true? Or, that Porter would have put up better numbers?

 

let's not get carried away now

 

Porter has shown that he can thrive with lesser talent around him, the same can not yet be said about Harrison.

Porter was double-teamed for most of the year and teams admitted to game planning for him.

To answer your question, no I don think Harrison puts up the numbers if he plays here and yes Joey puts up those numbers in Pitt.

Players always benefit from the talent around them. Adalius Thomas is finding that out the hard way in New England...

 

But you didn't, so he shouldn't.

 

But the award is based on a body of work, not a single game. Harrison deserves this award, while Porter played well, he doesn't.

 

You guys are hating on Porter badly. Our best player on defense should be cut, only showed up on 18 plays etc.

The dropoff from Porter to the next player is so bad, that when double teamed, that was it. Other teams, someone gets doubled, someone else steps up. It's a synergistic relationship. On our team, not so much.

You think we had no pressure? Take out Joey. Then you'll see how bad it'll get. And you think we're smart, opposing teams know that as well, and it's evident during the games.

Porter did make that behind the LOS tackle on the goal line that helped hold them to 3 points on Sunday, btw.

 

Just pointing it out that Porter deserved a little recognition. Im not saying JP should've won by any means but I find it interesting that the people (in the media) who said he was done last year are noticably absent.

Methinks Harrison doesn't SNIFF this award had he played for Houston or Detroit.

 

what? Sorry, I couldnt get any further down the thread than this. This comment blows me away.

 

Nothing wrong with that statement. Chad Pennington only showed up 19 times this season. And he crapped the bag 7 times, for a net of 12. horrible. Cut him. I'm not even going to talk about the playoffs ...

 

You're missing the point. The each member of the media votes for one guy. They don't sit in a room together and decide who should vote for whom.

If Porter played for Detroit, he wouldn't have had 17.5 sacks either and you wouldn't be lobbying for his recognition.

 

Porter put up those kind of numbers in Pittsburgh and he never had as many around him as Harrison does. As I have said Numerous times, I think Ed Reed should have won the award, but I would put Ware, Polamalu, Porter, Haynesworth, Ray Lewis and maybe even Nick Collins ahead of him.