Not 1 Vote for Joey Porter as Defensive MVP

Where's Demarcus Ware?

Ware had 13 votes

Why are you surprised ? :confused:

Joey didn't record a single sack in the last 3 games. You can't disappear like that and expect to win awards.

Porter was extremely overrated this season. He showed up on 18 plays. The rest of the time, you could swear he wasn't even on the field.

...he did have that fumble recovery...

"PMZQ wrote:

Why are you surprised ? :confused:

Joey didn't record a single sack in the last 3 games. You can't disappear like that and expect to win awards.

The heart and soul of a defense that went from 1-15 to 11-5 has to mean something imo.

"gi§h® wrote:

Porter was extremely overrated this season. He showed up on 18 plays. The rest of the time, you could swear he wasn't even on the field.

No, not really.

"Ludacris wrote:

The heart and soul of a defense that went from 1-15 to 11-5 has to mean something imo.

Overall he did have a great year, but not a DPOY year.

He deserved at least one vote.

"Brown42000 wrote:

He deserved at least one vote.

yep , that's crazy

what did he do to deserve one vote over harrison or ware?

"codizzle wrote:

what did he do to deserve one vote over harrison or ware?

i'd be willing to say his game against the patriots earlier in the year was deserved enough for at least one vote. He practically shut down that offense himself.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

i'd be willing to say his game against the patriots earlier in the year was deserved enough for at least one vote. He practically shut down that offense himself.

1 game doesn't make a season though. I'm not surprised he didn't receive a vote, if I was voting I would have voted for Reed, Ware, Harrison and Polamalu before Porter as well.

i would have taken harrison first then reed (only cause ware didnt make playoffs) then troy then haynesworth then ware

Porter had a good year, but his numbers v.s. Harrison and Ware are not even comparable. I may be biased but Ed Reed would have gotten my vote (though he was fighting injury early and wasn't a huge factor until about week6)11 INT's he scored 4 TD's, he Forced, Rovered, and scored with a fumble.

Harrison, Ware and Reed all could have won it. Was a really strong year for the award.

The thing about "Joey should have gotten at least one vote", that means somebody would have had to believe he deserved it more than the three guys mentioned above, plus Polamalu. There are no 2nd/3rd place votes. Only votes for who wins.

Nobody believes Porter was better than Harrison, Ware and Reed, right?

Non-issue IMO.

"Brown42000 wrote:

He deserved at least one vote.

Not a 1st place vote......maybe a 4th or 5th place vote, but not a 1st place vote.

"Muck wrote:

Harrison, Ware and Reed all could have won it. Was a really strong year for the award.

The thing about "Joey should have gotten at least one vote", that means somebody would have had to believe he deserved it more than the three guys mentioned above, plus Polamalu. There are no 2nd/3rd place votes. Only votes for who wins.

Nobody believes Porter was better than Harrison, Ware and Reed, right?

Non-issue IMO.

Bingo! Its not like the voters sit in a room and decide who to vote for. 40 or 50 writers, on their own, decided who they personally thought was the best defender in the league. I wouldn't have voted for Porter, and I'm a total homer. He was amazing this year, but not the absolute best defender!

Porter seemed to have a great season to us compared to what he did last season, which we all know was a huge let down. He did play extremely well this year, but he didn't finish strong and there were times even games where he was invisible.

I didn't expect him to win the award, yes he could have got at least one first place vote but i'm not suprised he didn't considering how many other talented defensive players the league has.

Not getting a vote doesn't take anything away from porter this season, he played great for us and was a great mentor and leader for our team. He's going to hawaii (if that counts for much these days) but more importantly he led our young defense back to a winning record and helped develop a lot of our young defensive players the right way, with the right attitude.

Joey did deserve at last one vote IMO. Harrison plays on an already excellent defense, as does Ed Reed. Im sure those guys will tell you they benefit from other superior talent around them.

If you replace Harrison with Joey Porter he wins the DPOY.

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Joey did deserve at last one vote IMO. Harrison plays on an already excellent defense, as does Ed Reed. Im sure those guys will tell you they benefit from other superior talent around them.

If you replace Harrison with Joey Porter he wins the DPOY.

Yeah, but because he would have put up the similar numbers as Harrison. Is your contention that the reverse wouldn't be true? Or, that Porter would have put up better numbers?

"gi§h® wrote:

Porter was extremely overrated this season. He showed up on 18 plays. The rest of the time, you could swear he wasn't even on the field.

let's not get carried away now

"Finascious D wrote:

Yeah, but because he would have put up the similar numbers as Harrison. Is your contention that the reverse wouldn't be true? Or, that Porter would have put up better numbers?

Porter has shown that he can thrive with lesser talent around him, the same can not yet be said about Harrison.

Porter was double-teamed for most of the year and teams admitted to game planning for him.

To answer your question, no I don think Harrison puts up the numbers if he plays here and yes Joey puts up those numbers in Pitt.

Players always benefit from the talent around them. Adalius Thomas is finding that out the hard way in New England...

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

Joey did deserve at last one vote IMO. Harrison plays on an already excellent defense, as does Ed Reed. Im sure those guys will tell you they benefit from other superior talent around them.

If you replace Harrison with Joey Porter he wins the DPOY.

But you didn't, so he shouldn't.