Nice write up on Chris McCoy

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padre31padre31luxury_boxOP
Apr 25, 2010, 10:28 AM

http://www.rookiedraft.com/?p=1736

McCoy is a multi-sport athlete that didn’t start playing football until his junior year in high school. He is a very raw player that has gotten by on his natural athletic ability.

He is very quick-twitched and can time the snap extremely well. While his football IQ may not be high, he has good instincts and has shown that he can be a disruptive force off the edge.

He’s not going to hold up well against the run and only has marginal strength. He’s got a narrow base and has faced sub par competition in his collegiate career

Interesting, "quick twitch athlete, did not play football until a Jr in High School"

The same sort of things were said about Cameron Wake.

Overall, I like him, but he is a 7th rd pick and very raw, Wake at least had two yrs in the CFL, McCoy is coming directly from MTSU...

the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Apr 25, 2010, 10:39 AM

Wake is the RealDeal, the next JasonTaylor. got to find someone to hold the edge @ SOLB. can McCoy do that?

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CapsCapsforum_veteran
Apr 25, 2010, 10:47 AM

"the 23rd wrote:

Wake is the RealDeal, the next JasonTaylor. got to find someone to hold the edge @ SOLB. can McCoy do that?

Misi will start at SOLB if he takes care of business

the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Apr 25, 2010, 10:48 AM

I think you're right Friend Caps Misi @ SOLB

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padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 25, 2010, 10:50 AM

"the 23rd wrote:

Wake is the RealDeal, the next JasonTaylor. got to find someone to hold the edge @ SOLB. can McCoy do that?

Nope, that is Koa Misi's job.

What McCoy is basically the backup RDE in our new 4-3 alignments.

YouTube- Chris McCoy #98 DE/OLB Middle Tennessee Highlight Film (Part 1)

Now what I do notice from that little bit is:

-relentless
-good speed

Downside

-few passrushing moves
-not a really great take off his first step rarely comes close to where his hands were placed on the ground, McCoy takes shorter, choppier steps, he needs to work on that skill.

Shorter steps..more steps to reach the Qb which means it takes longer to get there...

Alex44Alex44New Member
Apr 25, 2010, 12:11 PM

Shorter steps don't really equal longer if you take those steps quicker.

On the draft Quentin Rollins bandwagon.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 25, 2010, 12:16 PM

"Alex44 wrote:

Shorter steps don't really equal longer if you take those steps quicker.

Well think about this, 8 normal strides to get to the Qb, the longer the stride, the less the number of steps and the more ground the passrusher covers and the harder they are to block, with those short choppy steps the Olineman has longer to cut off the passrusher's arc.

Each step forward thins the profile the blocker has to attack and knock the rusher off of his arc.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 25, 2010, 01:22 PM

In thinking about this for a minute, it strikes me that McCoy and even Odrick have a hard hill to climb to gain playing time, on most teams the #4 DE on the depth chart faces a UDFA or marginal vet, in Miami, McCoy will go up against Andrew Gardner a All ACC left tackle, and Nate Garner, who was good enough to start for the Dolphins in 09.

If McCoy does have success, the hill becomes even steeper, then he will face Vern Carey and Jake Long..if he can make an impact he will be one heck of a good prospect, and the Staff will know one way or another even before the preseason.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 25, 2010, 03:17 PM

First of all, the player is an athlete, 2nd, he's got an excellent body, 3rd, he's fast...He's the definition of a Raw prospect with a high upside...his upside is not only with his body, speed, and athleticism combination, but also his instincts, for such a raw player,I see some nice natural football movements, and reads..

He was so worth a 7th rounder, great pick...

Apr 25, 2010, 03:35 PM

He is very raw, chances are he'll sit on the PS

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 25, 2010, 03:58 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

First of all, the player is an athlete, 2nd, he's got an excellent body, 3rd, he's fast...He's the definition of a Raw prospect with a high upside...his upside is not only with his body, speed, and athleticism combination, but also his instincts, for such a raw player,I see some nice natural football movements, and reads..

He was so worth a 7th rounder, great pick...

Here is the thing though Deej, Wake had literally hundreds of snaps in passrushing situations in the CFL, maybe even over 1,000 snaps of just passrushing, that is how he developed his toolbox.

McCoy will be fortunate to have 100 snaps in the preseason, 50 plays a game, 4 games, he will be a substitute 3rd and 4th qtr type, heck he will be lucky to have 40 snaps in the preseason, clearly a tough tough environment to make an impression.

I like this guy, but I also noticed he was unblocked perhaps too often to really get a feel for his hips and ankles and handwork...

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 25, 2010, 05:57 PM

Chris McCoy in his own words:

Chris McCoy was taken 212th overall and the co-Sun Belt Conference Defensive Player of the Year provides another pass rushing threat in Miami’s 3-4. He was told by the Dolphins that he will play weak side linebacker and is confident in his ability to come off the edge and hit the quarterback.

“I think my strengths are my speed first of all and just my hands,” McCoy said. “I’m good with my hands and I’m explosive off the ball. I’m very good coming off the edge and getting to the quarterback. I did a lot of different things in college. I played up sometimes and down as a defensive end and even lined up sometimes as a three technique and we did multiple things out of the base 4-3.”

As a senior, the 6-4, 250-pound linebacker had 59 tackles, 20 for loss, seven sacks, three pass breakups, a blocked kick and two fumble recoveries. He returned one of those fumbles 68 yards for a touchdown and anchored a Blue Raiders defense that led the nation in tackles for loss. In 2006 as a redshirt freshman he was the backup defensive end behind Walden coming out of spring drills.

McCoy expects to arrive in South Florida on Thursday in time for next week’s rookie mini-camp and continue developing as an effective pass rushing outside linebacker, which is what Ireland andthe Dolphins are hoping for.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/gm-jeff-ireland-april-24-2010-620451.html?page=3

What should be interesting to watch this summer is whether or not Cam Wake and McCoy hit it off, they both have much in common in their games, one of the things that would have been fascinating to watch in 2009 would have been whether or not Porter and Taylor took Wake under their wing and taught him some tricks..my suspicion is both saw him as a threat to their jobs and from the CFL, an inferior league in their view.

Strictly imho on that one.

(BTW tut-tut Edgar, one should never end a sentence with a preposition..)

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 25, 2010, 06:21 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Here is the thing though Deej, Wake had literally hundreds of snaps in passrushing situations in the CFL, maybe even over 1,000 snaps of just passrushing, that is how he developed his toolbox.

McCoy will be fortunate to have 100 snaps in the preseason, 50 plays a game, 4 games, he will be a substitute 3rd and 4th qtr type, heck he will be lucky to have 40 snaps in the preseason, clearly a tough tough environment to make an impression.

I like this guy, but I also noticed he was unblocked perhaps too often to really get a feel for his hips and ankles and handwork...

Theres some real raw ability there,and some open competition for depth, so for a 7th rounder, I like his athleticism enough to find out.

FIFinFan316New Member
Apr 25, 2010, 06:35 PM

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

He is very raw, chances are he'll sit on the PS


I agree, I think he and Oghobasse <sp> will both be on the practice sqaud...I don't know who else.

PHPhinatic425New Member
Apr 25, 2010, 06:39 PM

"Caps wrote:

Misi will start at SOLB if he takes care of business


Oh he will

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