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Then why draft Nicks?

Hmm...I pointed out that Wr take 3 years to develop, you agreed but still though he would make an impact on the team in his first year.

That would mean..."this guy is different"...

And that is why professionals get paid to make those decisions Alen.

That is a part of the reasoning for going Cb at #25.

 

It's hard to say Stitches, Wr who look great come to the NFL and vanish..Bowe? Ginn? Who knows, Wr are risky high picks.

 

The slot comment was a comparison to your DB's playing in nickel and dime packages.

No it would not. Don't twist my words. I said that he would make an immediate impact in the pass offense, no where did I say he was different from other receivers. He still has to develop his game, just like every other receiver that comes out but an immediate impact is not something that's out of the question. I said that he wouldn't be a thousand yard receiver but would make an impact, in other words a contribution.

Ok? I don't understand your point here. Its clear that Nicks is ahead of Ginn when it comes to the wide receiver position. I'm no professional, I'm no draft guru either but its pretty clear.

Are you just trying to slide that in any time you can?

 

Fair enough.

A contribution would be what exactly? Are you thinking a Brandon London Contribution, or a Eddie Royal contribution?

You mentioned "he won't be Randy Moss"...well then..who?

Men are paid well to make those decisions Alen, that is what I was alluding to, not yourself or myself, and the funny thing is, Wide Receivers carry the highest "bust" factor of any pick.

I'm looking for flaws in the reasoning behind the picking Cb at #25...testing my theory as it were, I don't take it personally.

 

No, not a Eddie Royal contribution. Royal had an exceptional rookie season. I'm not going to put any comparison on him because I'm not sure there is a fair one.

I know that. We know that men are paid for this but we are not one of those men and we still do have an opinion. I'm aware of the bust factor.

There is no problem with taking a CB that early in my opinion. If he can play and help a team need then he's a good selection.

 

The cat he reminds me off is Shannon Sharpe, just in body type and agility.

It was more a comment about how much prospect are studied by Scouts, and eventually Front Office types, hours and hours of film is studied to try and pick a guy...and they still bust...if they can spend that many hours studying a player, and still get it wrong...we are reduced to our "gut feeling" about a player.

Nicks will be a good pro Wr, he is a gifted athlete, for him it is the intangibles like work ethic and health IMO.

Thanks! But the flaws I see are 1. Sparano and Tuna love line dominance, they require it, a CB may not be in the cards early simply because that position does not fit that template early, they may believe Bowles is a good enough coach to "make do" and go Oline or Dline/DE/OLB.

2. In all of Tuna's time in the NFL, he has went Cb in rd1 twice when it was his decision, in 1996 with Ty Law for a NE Team that had been effectively rebuilt in a season, and in 2003 with the Cowboys...and that pick was out of character..and he already had his young and dominant DE/OLB pass rusher in McGinnest when he chose Law.

We don't have that guy yet, if English could be that player, or Sintim, we go with them and pick up a Cb in later..maybe even after Free Safety.

 

I was going for more of Anquan Boldin but to each his own.

Gotcha.

That's possible.

Except that Ireland is likely having more input in this draft and the last time he did, Terrence Newman was the pick I believe. And I know that Jerry Jones had to persuade him but I believe Ireland did have input on it.

Or you can take the top cornerback early and then come back with Clay Matthews and Connor Barwin in the second round for example. Doubling up is a possibility.