New quarterback

"Dolphins1372 wrote:

Has there even been a year where a good qb didnt get drafted?

Yeah.. quite a few years. Here's a link to all QB's drafted:
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

Check out 2013 or 2007 for example.

Still, the draft is a crapshoot and hard to determine beforehand which QB's will succeed and which won't so I'd still draft a QB high. Have to gamble a bit or you'll be waiting forever!

There's some good OL talent in this draft, and others too. I think RT17 remains the QB, we strengthen other areas and then we see about a QB for 2020.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

There are likely no long term answers in 2019. Its a really bad qb draft. Maybe as bad as 2013. And any veterans who are available are likely to be short term band aids.

If gase is back, then my preference is to roll with RT for another year, given that cutting him and signing another veteran would be more expensive.

Worse than that 2005 draft? That only had THREE* QBs taken in the first round and two of them late in the first? Why would teams even bother to take a QB in a bad draft class like that????

*Jason Campbell was the other QB taken after Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers.

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

Worse than that 2005 draft? That only had two QBs taken in the first round and one of them late in the first? Why would teams even bother to take a QB in a bad draft class like that????

I see what you did there.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I'm a WVU fan and have seen nearly every game that Grier has played. He's not an elite prospect, and he'll be 24 as a rookie. Limited skills and upside. Best case, he develops into a mid tier starter in a few years. His peak is several steps below Tannehill's.

Not to be that guy, but if we're talking high, mid & low tiers then how could a player be below or above anyone else by several steps? (Only 3 tiers) But seriously, Tannehill has never, ever, eeeeeever been several steps above any legit qb starter.

"bigballa2102 wrote:

barring any teams injury, maybe only jax would in the off season!!!! this would be a really interesting market test though!!! i dont see anyone needing a 7th yr project qb with a high salary everyone either has 1 or has a guy younger. Washington might be another suitor but i see them going to the draft to replace smith!!!

He doesn't have a high salary. I really wish people would stop parroting that...lol

One other thing, that I've suggested before: If you want a QB in the 2020 draft, trade away your 2019 first rounder for a 2020 first and change. Stock up, so you can make a trade up to the first or second pick.

"tirty8 wrote:

Okay, guys here is a bit of real talk for you guys.

Cutting Tannehill does not seem to be a viable option. Essentially, we would be paying him $13 mil to not play football for us. Although we are paying Suh quite a bit to not play for us, we can't get in the habit of doing this. If we wind up drafting a QB, it appears that Tannehill would be our best option as a stop gap guy. I feel like Tannehill is comparable to most of the guys that would be available via free agency, and signing one of those guys might actually wind up being more expensive.

The only way that Tannehill is cut is if we were to acquire a veteran starter with a contract in place. Essentially, this would be the trade for Derek Carr scenario.

Trading Tannehill would be a viable option, but it really depends on whether a market for him blossoms. At this moment, it is anyone's guess. Bridgewater will be the first domino to fall. You will then have Tyrod Taylor, Fitzmagic, Josh McCown, and possibly Winston, Flacco, and Dalton as other free agents that would not cost draft compensation or could be obtained for reasonable draft compensation.

Honestly, if a team is planning on drafting a QB, and they need a QB for just a season or left, Fitzmagic and McCown would honestly be fine. Is it possible that a team like the Jags or Broncos could view Tannehill as a viable long term option, sure.

I just want to let you know that there is a pretty good chance that Tannehill will be on the team next year but not be the future.

This transitions us to the distinct possibility of drafting a rookie while keeping Tannehill. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this rookie class is not great. I have not really gotten into my scouting yet, but as of this point, I don't see a guy that I would be willing to parlay a bunch of draft picks up to get. This naturally leads us to the question, "If there isn't a guy that you feel so passionately about that you would be willing to trade up for, should you even draft him in the first place?" In my mind, that is a fair point. Needless to say, I think we do wind up drafting a weaker early QB. With that concession in place, I think having an established veteran (Tannehill) in place would be prudent as this rookie might not be ready to start week one.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/ryan-tannehill-9818/

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"danmarino wrote:

He doesn't have a high salary. I really wish people would stop parroting that...lol

well it is high for a non productive qb when you could have fitzmagic and do the same. i seriously doubt RT would have numbers as he does in miami if he didnt throw bubble screens all day and ran a real offense. But we wont know until it happens so im going with my opinion. there are qbs to do what he would do on their team for alot less than 15+ mill a yr price tag.

"Dorfdad wrote:

Still not worth it, also wtf would Kansas City even glance at that trade lol?

Let’s trade Tom Brady 2 years in for Jay Fiedler, a seventh round pick and Kareem abdul Jabari

I dont know wth your talking about, what or who’s not worth it?

"cbrad wrote:

He would be one hell of a backup QB.

Be willing to bet that’s how it turns out..

"djphinfan wrote:

I dont know wth your talking about, what or who’s not worth it?

Sorry Man I hit reply and this was meant to be for: TheHighExhaulted and his crazy trade post.

"Dorfdad wrote:

Sorry Man I hit reply and this was meant to be for: TheHighExhaulted and his crazy trade post.

Lol, ok man no worries :)

I had targeted McKenzie Milton in the draft but that ain’t gonna happen now..

No one picked up my sarcasm. I was just doing my classic Dolphins fan impression. "Tannehill sucks but let's trade him for a 1st round pick!" "Devante Parker is useless but I bet we can get a 1st and a 3rd for him!"

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

No one picked up my sarcasm. I was just doing my classic Dolphins fan impression. "Tannehill sucks but let's trade him for a 1st round pick!" "Devante Parker is useless but I bet we can get a 1st and a 3rd for him!"

I got it...lol

"tirty8 wrote:

Okay, guys here is a bit of real talk for you guys.

Cutting Tannehill does not seem to be a viable option. Essentially, we would be paying him $13 mil to not play football for us. Although we are paying Suh quite a bit to not play for us, we can't get in the habit of doing this. If we wind up drafting a QB, it appears that Tannehill would be our best option as a stop gap guy. I feel like Tannehill is comparable to most of the guys that would be available via free agency, and signing one of those guys might actually wind up being more expensive.

The only way that Tannehill is cut is if we were to acquire a veteran starter with a contract in place. Essentially, this would be the trade for Derek Carr scenario.

Trading Tannehill would be a viable option, but it really depends on whether a market for him blossoms. At this moment, it is anyone's guess. Bridgewater will be the first domino to fall. You will then have Tyrod Taylor, Fitzmagic, Josh McCown, and possibly Winston, Flacco, and Dalton as other free agents that would not cost draft compensation or could be obtained for reasonable draft compensation.

Honestly, if a team is planning on drafting a QB, and they need a QB for just a season or left, Fitzmagic and McCown would honestly be fine. Is it possible that a team like the Jags or Broncos could view Tannehill as a viable long term option, sure.

I just want to let you know that there is a pretty good chance that Tannehill will be on the team next year but not be the future.

This transitions us to the distinct possibility of drafting a rookie while keeping Tannehill. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this rookie class is not great. I have not really gotten into my scouting yet, but as of this point, I don't see a guy that I would be willing to parlay a bunch of draft picks up to get. This naturally leads us to the question, "If there isn't a guy that you feel so passionately about that you would be willing to trade up for, should you even draft him in the first place?" In my mind, that is a fair point. Needless to say, I think we do wind up drafting a weaker early QB. With that concession in place, I think having an established veteran (Tannehill) in place would be prudent as this rookie might not be ready to start week one.

Cutting him or trading him is the same cap wise (vis a vis dead money).

"Redwine4all wrote:

Cutting him or trading him is the same cap wise (vis a vis dead money).

I think getting draft compensation for him makes the dead money a lot more palatable. I kinda look at it as akin to paying for a draft pick as opposed to paying a guy not to play.

But yeah, dead money really sucks.

"Dolphins1372 wrote:

For those of us like myself that think tannehill has all the tools to be good.
This kid does everything tannehill does. But better. (Ya ya against college players) gotta start somewhere tho. And he is a real quarterback.

He isn’t perfect. But the kid aint afraid to go deep.
He should be available to us. We will see how he finishes the season. Also i read mahomes and goff never beat ranked opponents in college.

I don't watch college ball, but my first impression is I don't really like the guy. He's got tons of time to throw and still makes some questionable throws. Biggest issue with that highlight reel for me is he has tons of time to throw. How does he do under pressure?

We need someone who has a natural feel for the pocket, good football IQ and decent accuracy, even if he's not physically awesome.. as opposed to someone who has great physical tools but a questionable football mind.

Well.. like I said I'm only going by that one video, but I don't like what I see there.

He got credit for that Drake TD?? Lol.

"Drizzy wrote:

He got credit for that Drake TD?? Lol.

Obviously. Every QB gets credit for long runs that started with a pass... isn't this common knowledge?

"Galant wrote:

Obviously. Every QB gets credit for long runs that started with a pass... isn't this common knowledge?

Obviously it's not...lol.

SMH

"Dolphins1372 wrote:

i read the giants will take drew lock with the 5th pick. Pure speculation at this point.
But lock is a top ten pick? Isnt he?

No. There was talk before the college season but he hasn't shown anything to make anyone think he is a 1st round let alone top 10 QB.
Unless your scouting department can find a guy that can be developed this is not the year for a QB. And I don't trust our scouting department.