Nate Burleson breaks down why Rosen has the makings of a franchise QB

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SceetoSceetoforum_veteranOP
May 20, 2019, 12:32 AM
Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
May 20, 2019, 08:55 AM

One skill that Rosen has that I like is his pocket awareness.

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The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
May 20, 2019, 10:54 AM

"Surfs Up 99 wrote:

One skill that Rosen has that I like is his pocket awareness.

One thing he's highlighting there is the multi-tasking Tannehill could never accomplish, where Rosen is able to evade pass rushers while still keeping his eyes focused downfield.

When Tannehill's eyes were focused downfield, his awareness of the pass rush and ability to evade it was very poor. He had to take his eyes away from downfield to manage the pass rush, and by then it was very often too late. He couldn't multi-task in the way Burleson is highlighting above.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
May 20, 2019, 11:05 AM

"The Guy wrote:

One thing he's highlighting there is the multi-tasking Tannehill could never accomplish, where Rosen is able to evade pass rushers while still keeping his eyes focused downfield.

When Tannehill's eyes were focused downfield, his awareness of the pass rush and ability to evade it was very poor. He had to take his eyes away from downfield to manage the pass rush, and by then it was very often too late. He couldn't multi-task in the way Burleson is highlighting above.

agreed about Tannehill, said the same many times over the years, however, Rosen couldn't do it last year either.

The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
May 20, 2019, 11:19 AM

"djphinfan wrote:

agreed about Tannehill, said the same many times over the years, however, Rosen couldn't do it last year either.

I didn't watch Rosen at all last year, so those clips could be exceptions to the rule, but at least there are two things we know from those clips that distinguish him from Tannehill: 1) he can do it (albeit perhaps not frequently enough at present), and 2) he was only a rookie at the time. So unlike Tannehill, where after many years we knew he'd hit his ceiling in this area, there is perhaps tremendous room for improvement with Rosen.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
May 20, 2019, 11:29 AM

"The Guy wrote:

I didn't watch Rosen at all last year, so those clips could be exceptions to the rule, but at least there are two things we know from those clips that distinguish him from Tannehill: 1) he can do it (albeit perhaps not frequently enough at present), and 2) he was only a rookie at the time. So unlike Tannehill, where after many years we knew he'd hit his ceiling in this area, there is perhaps tremendous room for improvement with Rosen.

agree with that.

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May 20, 2019, 01:15 PM
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May 20, 2019, 01:39 PM

THTheOneforum_veteran
May 20, 2019, 02:49 PM

"The Guy wrote:

One thing he's highlighting there is the multi-tasking Tannehill could never accomplish, where Rosen is able to evade pass rushers while still keeping his eyes focused downfield.

When Tannehill's eyes were focused downfield, his awareness of the pass rush and ability to evade it was very poor. He had to take his eyes away from downfield to manage the pass rush, and by then it was very often too late. He couldn't multi-task in the way Burleson is highlighting above.

Although Tannehill did have a bad o-line a large portion of the sacks he took were on him.

mbsinmiscmbsinmiscforum_veteran
May 21, 2019, 06:13 PM

"Surfs Up 99 wrote:

One skill that Rosen has that I like is his pocket awareness.

That is the first thing I noticed. I think Tannehill invited DCoordinators to blitz because he handled them so poorly. I hope Rosen takes this job the first day of camp and runs with it. An underpaid top 10 QB is an incredible asset.

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The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
May 21, 2019, 06:56 PM

"mbsinmisc wrote:

That is the first thing I noticed. I think Tannehill invited DCoordinators to blitz because he handled them so poorly. I hope Rosen takes this job the first day of camp and runs with it. An underpaid top 10 QB is an incredible asset.

And that’s where Rosen has the opportunity to really help the team. If he can develop into one of the best QBs in the league, the Dolphins will have a uncommon amount of salary cap space left to address the rest of the roster. Typically when a quarterback is paid like one of the best in the league, there is comparatively little money left to spend elsewhere.

Look at the difference in the Seattle Seahawks between when Russell Wilson was on his rookie contract, and when they started having to pay him big. Night and day difference in the overall quality of the team.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
May 23, 2019, 06:20 AM

"The Guy wrote:

One thing he's highlighting there is the multi-tasking Tannehill could never accomplish, where Rosen is able to evade pass rushers while still keeping his eyes focused downfield.

When Tannehill's eyes were focused downfield, his awareness of the pass rush and ability to evade it was very poor. He had to take his eyes away from downfield to manage the pass rush, and by then it was very often too late. He couldn't multi-task in the way Burleson is highlighting above.

I agree, and this is partially why I believe he was worse off after his knee injury. Prior, he had some athletic ability to give himself the extra split seconds he needed to refocus.

Not to say he was ever great at it, but from time to time hed make a nice play for us in this fashion.

The read option basically vanished after his injury and he basically lost everything that gave him a chance at the position.

Just my 2 cents. Anyone can disagree.

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
May 23, 2019, 11:41 AM

That second play at the 1:33 mark- I couldn't help but think, "Uh oh, Tannehill strip sack incoming...." But Rosen literally stakes one step forward to buy a full second and make a completion. I still think Tannehill needs hearing aids....it's the only thing that explains why he was so deplorable in the pocket.

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