My season ending thoughts.

"GMJohnson wrote:

I swear the Jets were the ones who looked like their season was on the line.

They played like a team with nothing to lose.

This actually happens a fair amount because of that effect. Look at Baltimore.

"fins104 wrote:

You are wrong. Coaching only has so much of an impact. This team has the worst Lb's in the league, easily the worst Oline in the league. Safeties played like **** in pass coverage all year. RB's had no holes.

Coaching can't overcome that no matter who it is.

The Jets don't have a lot of firepower offensively but they do have talent. They have the best Dline in the league and a very good oline.

The best D line was last week. The Jets got zero sacks today. But we have the worst oline. Yeah makes sense.

The Jets were picked to have less than 5 wins because of talent.

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Atleast you guys are rationally thinking so soon. I'm still undecided whether I want to jump off a cliff, steer into oncoming traffic or jump in front of a train. All three sound much more enjoyable then watching those last two dolphins games.

"KB21 wrote:

Where is that team less talented? They have a better offensive line. They have better running backs. We have better receivers. Their DL is close to equal Miami's. They have better linebackers. The secondaries are about equal. Miami has the better quarterback.

We just got run out of the stadium by the Bills and Jets after beating the Pats, Steelers and Jets. It's not about talent IMO it's about effort, urgency, and playing under the pressure of increased expectations.

"ckparrothead wrote:

They played like a team with nothing to lose.

This actually happens a fair amount because of that effect. Look at Baltimore.

Tip of the cap to you Sir. You called it.

So, who are we looking at in the draft?

Wheeler needs to go. We need a mainstay at his position.
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"Patssuck wrote:

Yea lets get rid of Tannehill because he had a bad game. Clueless as usual

While there is still potential for Tannehill, if you can't see that he is very inconsistent and no lock to be a Franchise QB, then you may be the clueless one my friend. This is the guy that is between 7th and 22nd in every statistical category for a QB. He hasn't dominated one aspect of the QB position and that's due to inconsistency. We must and We WILL draft a QB to light a fire under his butt in the 3rd Round, that is guaranteed.

"KB21 wrote:

This is the same offensive scheme that the Packers use and have set offensive scoring records with when Philbin was the offensive coordinator for that team. The scheme is not the problem. The players and execution of the scheme is the problem.

The Dolphins have the worst offensive line I've ever seen at the NFL level. When you can't win one on one match ups up front, you aren't going to score very many points, no matter how well your quarterback plays.

Um..so how about changing it to fit your personnel? Belicheck didn't prefer a high flying no huddle offense when he started, but he realized he had better offensive personnel and had his OC tailor it to his team.

You think McCoy liked running the ball 80% of the time with Tebow?

The best teams have a GM and coach that adapt and find systems to change to their team. We have neither the GM or coach for that.

I would fire Philbin as soon as we can to try and pry Bill O'Brien or Whisenhunt away.

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

Need a new QB, that much is certain.

Yes. He's clearly the problem. A good QB with this exact same team and coaching staff wins 14 games. You've got it all figured out

"byroan wrote:

The best D line was last week. The Jets got zero sacks today. But we have the worst oline. Yeah makes sense.

The Jets were picked to have less than 5 wins because of talent.

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Its not all about sacks. The dolphins o line was better today pass blocking. The jets have the 5th and 7th best 3-4 DE's and the 4th best DT in the league according to PFF. They have an amazing defensive line.

The jets were picked to win 5 games because they had mark sanchez and Geno smith as their qb's and limited skill position guys. Im not saying they are more talented than us but to call that team not talented is idiotic.

"Stringer Bell wrote:

QB and head coach. Two most important parts.

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Philbin has done nothing to show he is a better head coach than Rex Ryan.

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

Um..so how about changing it to fit your personnel? Belicheck didn't prefer a high flying no huddle offense when he started, but he realized he had better offensive personnel and had his OC tailor it to his team.

You think McCoy liked running the ball 80% of the time with Tebow?

The best teams have a GM and coach that adapt and find systems to change to their team. We have neither the GM or coach for that.

I would fire Philbin as soon as we can to try and pry Bill O'Brien or Whisenhunt away.

Tell me, what did Whisenhunt do when he didn't have Kurt Warner?

"MrClean wrote:

It's not the players, it's not the coaches, it's not the GM. It the stadium's fault. It's Joe Robbie's fault for having such a sh!tty stadium built. It is all so clear now.

I know I read it and didn't respond because it's just too idiotic.

"MrClean wrote:

Philbin has done nothing to show he is a better head coach than Rex Ryan.

It was a joke. Philbin stinks IMO.

I don't think anyone is on the fence with regard to Sherman ... I think we all 'accepted' him initially to help Tannehill along, even the same for this year for continuity -- but IF there is even consideration that he stays for anther year, then Philbin needs to be fired immediately.

Coyle, I'm not excited about either ... but the defense has played well 'enough' to win more games ...

Philbin, I don't care ... to me - he is easily replaceable .... like defense, I do want a HC that has and shows some passion --- I don't want a 'manager', I want a leader!

Love the flip flopping on Tannehill. Its a joke. Yes he buckled today but so did this whole team. This was ALOT to put on a 2nd yr qb, hey the whole team sucks so it is up to you to win and get us to the playoffs, all on you.

now he didnt play well, but I will wait to see if they bring in new coaches and new gm that are qualified and can coach and find talent and see if RT progresses next year. if they keep this regime forget it, you have doomed this team to failure and I will be convince Ross' motivation isnt winning rather the appearance of trying to win just to keep $ coming in.

"GMJohnson wrote:

Tip of the cap to you Sir. You called it.

So, who are we looking at in the draft?

Unfortunately there's no telling until we know who will be coaching and GMing next year.

Also, anyone know our draft order?

"MrClean wrote:

It's not the players, it's not the coaches, it's not the GM. It the stadium's fault. It's Joe Robbie's fault for having such a sh!tty stadium built. It is all so clear now.

I'm not blaming in it all on the stadium..it's part of the reason it's so difficult to win at home imo...but you must find coaches and the right type of players that can overcome it.

"P h i N s A N i T y wrote:

You said it deej, it's obvious where this team is lacking most. We may not have the best Qb or most talented roster in the league..... But I don't think it would matter with coaching like this. Awful....it would be a shame if Sherman kept his job. The defense was dissapointing, but the offense was a total failure. Philbin needs to be held accountable as well. We can do better....... And yes, the stadium is an issue..... Everyone downplaying it like DJ is on some wild goose chase is completely clueless. There is a reason the NFL won't be bringing any superbowls back to Miami..... The stadium isn't up to par with NFL standards. FACT.PERIOD. Tannehill is the guy at Qb, we just need someone to mentor him, preferably someone who didn't move him to WR at one point........... That should have been a red flag to begin with.

See I can't tell if this person is just completely clueless of facts or is just a huge troll on the site.

Tannnehill was moved to WR because there was an established starter that was better than he was, and and he was too good of an athlete to let sit on the bench and not play at all to help his team. He started as a QB in HS and even after being asked to play WR he still was listed as a QB on the roster, and attended not one WR meeting but every single QB meeting.

It wouldn't be surprised if Ireland or Philbin were fired.

I would be surprised if both were to go this offseason. More likely scenario is Ireland is fired this offseason, and Philbin next. Maybe a new stopgap coordinator or two. Slim chance they can find quality coordinators to come here and coach under and lame duck coach.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Unfortunately there's no telling until we know who will be coaching and GMing next year.

Also, anyone know our draft order?

17th? :shrug:

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

Need a new QB, that much is certain.

I don't know that I agree with that, but he's still playing checkers out there while the really good QBs are, of course, playing chess. He might become very good, not great in my opinion, but he's consistently overrated on this board imo.

There's no getting around the deep ball issue- Wallace was signed to provide a deep threat, and in this offense RT has to make those throws, he's just not good enough and the offense isn't good enough to consistently pick apart defenses. They needed to score more this year when the opportunities presented themselves, and they didn't, couldn't close the deal.

The OL sucks, the not letting Tannehill roll out more and use his legs more sucks, and both have to be changed imo, the OL needs to be rebuilt and Sherman needs to hit the highway, with Ireland and Philbin on each arm. I'm hopeful as to Tannehill's future, but I think that we might have had a better chance to win the last 2 games with Matt Moore in there, RT was just garbage in the final two money games.

"fins104 wrote:

You are wrong. Coaching only has so much of an impact. This team has the worst Lb's in the league, easily the worst Oline in the league. Safeties played like **** in pass coverage all year. RB's had no holes.

Coaching can't overcome that no matter who it is.

The Jets don't have a lot of firepower offensively but they do have talent. They have the best Dline in the league and a very good oline.

Exactly, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken **** (courtesy of Gary Stevens)

"GMJohnson wrote:

I swear the Jets were the ones who looked like their season was on the line.

yup. They played their asses off for their head coach. We couldn't even pay ours off for the Playoffs. :pity:

"KB21 wrote:

This is the same offensive scheme that the Packers use and have set offensive scoring records with when Philbin was the offensive coordinator for that team. The scheme is not the problem. The players and execution of the scheme is the problem.

The Dolphins have the worst offensive line I've ever seen at the NFL level. When you can't win one on one match ups up front, you aren't going to score very many points, no matter how well your quarterback plays.

So you didn't watch the NFL when David Carr was sacked an NFL record number of times?

We can agree out line is terrible. However most good coaches don't ask their lineman repeatedly to do things they have previously shown they cant. Most good coordinators find a way to MINIMIZE deficiencies not bring them into clear focus weekly.

Most teams with poor lines sometimes run these whacky plays called screen passes and draws. Some with mobile QBs even do insane things like moving the pocket to minimize pressure.

It mau be the same basic system but Philbin wasnt calling the plays, he was creating the game plan which there is no evidence he does here. So it may be the same type of system, but it is being by a horribly inept coach..