My researched dolphins mock draft

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ZAzach8111New MemberOP
Dec 5, 2007, 11:44 PM

i want to here your opinions but before you criticize it too much, just take into consideration that i have read up on most of the players in the draft and did a lot of studying up on them.this is also based on only if the juniors that i have drafted come out this year. i also posted some highlights of the players from youtube.com. All the projections and stats are from walterfootball.com. here it is... Also since we will have high picks in every round the projections of round 1-2, for example, is very possible to get them in the later round llisted (like round 2)

I might actually like this better, but im not sure ... 1..long, 2..terrel thomas CB USC, 2..Otah.......then the rest, if otah will fall to the late 2nd, which i've seen some mocks where he does fall that far.

1...Chris Long, DE Virginia Projected Round: Top 5 Pick
Height: 6-4...Weight: 284...40 Time: 4.78.

2...Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburg Projected Round: 1-2.
Height: 6-6...Weight: 340...40 Time: 5.24.

2...Dwight Lowery, CB San Jose ST. Projected Round: 2.
Height: 6-1...Weight: 185...40 Time: 4.38.

3...Chase Coffman, TE Missouri Projected Round: 2-3
Height: 6-6..Weight: 245...40 Time: 4.75.

4...Jeremy Leman, ILB Illinois Projected Round: 4.
Height: 6-2...Weight: 240...40 Time: 4.77.

5...(traded for Trent Green)

6...Jason Rivers, WR Hawaii Projected Round: 6-7
Height: 6-2...Weight: 192...40 Time: 4.49.

7...Marcus Harrison DT, Arkansas Projected Round: 6-FA
Height: 6-3...Weight: 310...40 Time: 4.98.

Some possible key FA moves:
WR...Bryant Johnson (ARI), Patrick Crayton (DAL), or Benard Berian (CHI)
DT...Albert Haynseworth (TEN) IF MONEY IS RIGHT BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT IT WILL BE

i also would like to make a trade to get into the 5th round and pick up:
5...Andrew Bain, OG Miami Projected Round: 4-5
Height: 6-3...Weight: 330...40 Time: 5.22.
A massive guard who can help any team's running game. Started every game in 2006.

Just for the record, i did call the john beck pick last year in the 2a pick.
Dwight Lowery CB (jersey #25 in video) (2b pick) http://youtube.com/watch?v=S_LKUYxnkaI

Chris Long DE (#1 pick) http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkQDF6pghQU

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 12:11 AM

wow, im not saying those guys aren't good, but not one of your top 4 picks has played a serious game all season. Also the sheer thought of not drafting at least one SEC player scares the hell out of me. Well, outside of your 7th rounder.

ZAzach8111New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 12:17 AM

they dont go to big time schools but they are good players. most of the sec players that are good are in places where we dont draft or positions where we don need. i would like to see your mock draft. id like to see you put in a couple of sec players. granted sec player are good but to be good in nfl you dont have to go to a big time school (SEC)

CitizenSnipsCitizenSnipsNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 12:23 AM

I haven't gone deep into the draft info just yet, so i can't give you a full draft. I actually agree with your first round pick, but a guy like Dorsey or McFadden could both go there as well. Long would fit in the 3-4 system best, but Dorsey's a fantastic defensive lineman. But i'd be happy with Chris long for sure.

I don't see Coffman making it out of the 2nd round, if we're taking him, which i also agree with, we should take him with the 2nd 2nd rounder.

I can't comment on the rest as of right now however, just think we'll have better options than Jeff Otah with our very high 2nd.

SWsweeperNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 12:27 AM

I saw a mock just now of Dorsey, terrel brown (I think thats the name, its the guy from USC CB), Otah at T, then Davis at 3. I think thats a very good draft. DT, CB, RT, and TE. get trufant at CB (dono much bout the usc guy) and thats a nice setup on a team for a base of getting needs filled with good talent. But WR woudl still need to be addressed at LB.

Go for GHOL!

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1st pick

lbmclean_sjlbmclean_sjNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 12:27 AM

beautiful draft

although we would be lucky if Lehman fell that far

BelieverintealBelieverintealNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 01:24 AM

Jason Rivers or Devon Bess would be steals in the 6th round!! Their stocks might rise after the Sugar Bowl but Randy Mueller always seems to have a nack for Hawai'i players.

"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat him as he could be, and he will become what he should be."
- Jimmy Johnson

ZAzach8111New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 01:26 AM

"sweeper wrote:

I saw a mock just now of Dorsey, terrel brown (I think thats the name, its the guy from USC CB), Otah at T, then Davis at 3. I think thats a very good draft. DT, CB, RT, and TE. get trufant at CB (dono much bout the usc guy) and thats a nice setup on a team for a base of getting needs filled with good talent. But WR woudl still need to be addressed at LB.

CB usc name is terrell thomas and ya i like picking him with 2a and 2b could be used for otah if he would fall to there.

ZAzach8111New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 01:27 AM

"Believerinteal wrote:

Jason Rivers or Devon Bess would be steals in the 6th round!! Their stocks might rise after the Sugar Bowl but Randy Mueller always seems to have a nack for Hawai'i players.

ya i know rivers is a steal that is why i was surprised t osee him listed as a 6-7 rounder.

CRCrowdaNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:04 AM

I love the Lowry pick. Definitely not sure about Chris Long unless we move down, he's not a #1 overall. If I had my druthers the Cowboys would overpay for the #1 pick so they are guarenteed McFadden...God I hope this comes true.

If not I'd like to see us get Dorsey, Lowry, Keith Rivers and Laurence Jackson. I know we can't get all of them because they are all top round picks but two of the four and I'd be happy as a clam :]

Going to SJSU I've had a lot of time to watch Lowry and let me tell you this guy is the real deal. Plus he's a good guy without an ego, but then again we do need some mean guys on our defense (Fins).

CRCrowdaNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:05 AM

Addressing Terrel Thomas...being a USC fan and watching a lot of their games as well I can say that Lowry is probably the better pro of Thomas; Thomas wasn't really that spectacular.

SWsweeperNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:23 AM

"Crowda wrote:

I love the Lowry pick. Definitely not sure about Chris Long unless we move down, he's not a #1 overall. If I had my druthers the Cowboys would overpay for the #1 pick so they are guarenteed McFadden...God I hope this comes true.

If not I'd like to see us get Dorsey, Lowry, Keith Rivers and Laurence Jackson. I know we can't get all of them because they are all top round picks but two of the four and I'd be happy as a clam :]

Going to SJSU I've had a lot of time to watch Lowry and let me tell you this guy is the real deal. Plus he's a good guy without an ego, but then again we do need some mean guys on our defense (Fins).

Dal deal would be only good if we get the 2 1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd, and a 1st next year b/c there picks are ALL late roudn picks as they will most likely hit the SB. so basically we will be getting 1 late 1st cuz the browns will be in the 17-24 range prob, Dal 1st is a 2nd basically, their 2nd is a 3rd, the 3rd is a 4th, and next years 1st will be another very late 1st.

I dono if its worth it then let alone for Dal to make such a deal.

IF taht were to go down, I wouldnt mind miami going with, Hardy with the Dal (brown pick), then Otah wiht the Dal pick, then Davis TE wiht our 2nd, then Leman wiht the SD 2nd, and Steltz with the Dal 2nd.

Thats a WR (big need n big huge gigantic fast target), HUGE RT, PLAYMAKING TE, MLB of the future, and a hard hitting SS (neone know how he does in coverage tho? Ive seen a few games n seems decent but only a few games so info woudl be good) then get a CB wiht the 1st 3rd, and a DE with the 2nd 3rd.

FA u get Trufant n plug some holes along with a Vet WR and a G.

and u have a 1st next year again.

Go for GHOL!

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1st pick

SWsweeperNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:26 AM

build the D next year in Draft czu once we get a T, a G (FA), a WR, a WR (FA), a TE and our offense should be done wiht 1 group of rookies, 1 group of 1 yr vets, and a RB of 4 yrs. thats a solid foundtation. You got minor D youngsters and with the draft after this coming up u load up on some DT DE spots and ur good to go.

Go for GHOL!

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1st pick

ZAzach8111New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:29 AM

"sweeper wrote:

build the D next year in Draft czu once we get a T, a G (FA), a WR, a WR (FA), a TE and our offense should be done wiht 1 group of rookies, 1 group of 1 yr vets, and a RB of 4 yrs. thats a solid foundtation. You got minor D youngsters and with the draft after this coming up u load up on some DT DE spots and ur good to go.

there is so much D-line talent in this draft it isnt even funny. there is alot of LB, CB in this draft too. you cant wait until next draft to get D, you have to mix them into both draft, drafting both O and D.

SWsweeperNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:45 AM

"zach8111 wrote:

there is so much D-line talent in this draft it isnt even funny. there is alot of LB, CB in this draft too. you cant wait until next draft to get D, you have to mix them into both draft, drafting both O and D.

yea buts its hard to do so esp with the way we did it last year, first 4 picsk were O. I dono we have so many damn holes its disgusting. I think its fixable within 2 yeras of FA n draft. but by the time for them to understand the game n settle into it itll be about 2-3 yrs in rookie n more picks come in by taht time so should be a good team within 2-4 years.

Go for GHOL!

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1st pick

ZAzach8111New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 02:56 AM

"sweeper wrote:

yea buts its hard to do so esp with the way we did it last year, first 4 picsk were O. I dono we have so many damn holes its disgusting. I think its fixable within 2 yeras of FA n draft. but by the time for them to understand the game n settle into it itll be about 2-3 yrs in rookie n more picks come in by taht time so should be a good team within 2-4 years.

ya we picked mostly offense last year and we see how well that turned out. our d needs some help now too. its gettin old and the replacements should at least have a year or two to learn from thmas and taylor before they retire
we cant adress 1 need in offence and just forget about our d like last year. we went from #4 d to #30 or whatever we are now.

SWsweeperNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 04:56 AM

"zach8111 wrote:

ya we picked mostly offense last year and we see how well that turned out. our d needs some help now too. its gettin old and the replacements should at least have a year or two to learn from thmas and taylor before they retire
we cant adress 1 need in offence and just forget about our d like last year. we went from #4 d to #30 or whatever we are now.

ya but that isnt solely based on talent. a lot has to do with scheme and saban. i told everyoen saban was a hugee part of that D. think about it dude, Same roster, same talent, same ppl from the past 2 years but 1 guy missing in saban and 2 pro bowlers in JT and JP aren't playign to their level nor are the rest. as holliday said, capers is putting everyoen out of position. JP is playing DE for crying out loud. loll might as well put ZT at SS.

Go for GHOL!

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1st pick

CACarabinieri44New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 06:46 AM

a healthy Matt Roth, plus Chris Long on the other side = nasty

DODOLFAN91New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 10:56 AM

i absolutely love this draft scenario!!! i love the balance between offense and defense!!! addressing what essentially are the needs of the team.... i have liked dwight lowery for quite some time... ever since i read about him in on a draft sight last season... i have followed his stats tried and have read up on him as much as possible this season!!! the only thing i would question is the passing up of such an offensive talent like darren mcfadden!!! GOOD JOB!!! i would love to shake your hand if this senario came true!!!

DODOLFAN91New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 10:59 AM

P.S. if dallas threw in the spencer kid i'd jump all over the 2 1st and a 2nd this year and a 2nd and 3rd next season

TexphinphanTexphinphanNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 11:45 AM

Here is the problem with this mock draft. There is not a single Samoan on it. Please look it over and fix this glaring problem.

Thanks
Texphinphan

GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteran
Dec 6, 2007, 12:00 PM

If we could get Long, Otah, and Leman... I'd be happy.

ZAzach8111New Member
Dec 6, 2007, 03:39 PM

"Texphinphan wrote:

Here is the problem with this mock draft. There is not a single Samoan on it. Please look it over and fix this glaring problem.

Thanks
Texphinphan

we 3 or 4 samoans last year. thats not enough. cant get some every year. none fit where we draft and talent fits need. if you want a samoan start a team in hawaii. lol. i do like the ones we got last year though

Fla PhinFla PhinNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 04:52 PM

As long as it's defense, defense, and more defense...

MImiamirwNew Member
Dec 6, 2007, 07:57 PM

we're going to get some conditional picks for the following:

Damien MCIntosh, Starter LT for KC Chiefs
Sammy Morris, Part Time Starter for New England Patriots
David Bowens, Part Time Starter for NY Jets
Jeff Zgonina, Part Time Starter for Houston Texans
Darian Barnes, Back up for NY Jets?
Kyle Eckel, Back up for New England Patriots

We won't get credit for Kevin Carter, Randy McMichael or Olindo Mare because we cut those players.

We should get at least a fifth round pick, maybe one of those fourth rounders because of the fact that McIntosh started for most of the season.

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