My Mike Maser Historical Draft Thread (Long)

Hey guys, I know some have seen this before but I wanted to help keep the site moving. So, I decided to repost it here in "The Phins" for the first time. If anyone is upset about the repost I apologize, but for the new guys I hope you like it.



I decided to do some research on my own regarding Mike Maser as it pertains to his selection of offensive lineman in the draft. I have based this on going back to 1995 and ending in 2005, which spans his coaching career with Jacksonville (1995-2002) and Carolina (2002-2005). It should be noted that Maser worked with Chris Palmer in Jacksonville, and Dan Henning in Carolina. (I just did that to refresh your collective memory, in case some forgot the correlation)
I garnered this information from NFL.com in case any wish to check it out and make sure I didn’t leave anyone off. Anyway here is the list:
Jacksonville:
1995: Tony Boselli, OT USC – Round 1 #2 overall
Brian DeMarco, OT Michigan St. – Round 2 #40 overall
Marcus Price, OT Louisiana St. – Round 6 #172 overall

1996: Michael Cheever, 6’ 295lbs. C Georgia Tech – Round 2 #60 overall
Jimmy Herndon, 6’8” 318lbs. OT Houston – Round 5 #146 overall

1997: None

1998: John Wade, 6’5” 299lbs. C Marshall – Round 4 #101 overall

1999: None

2000: Brad Meester, 6’3” 300lbs. G Northern Iowa – Round 2 #60 overall
Joey Chustz, OT Louisiana Tech – Round 4 #123 overall
Mark Baniewicz 6’5” 303lbs. OT Syracuse – Round 7 #247 overall

2001: Maurice Williams, 6’5” 315lbs. OT Michigan – Round 2 #43 overall
Chad Ward, G Washington – Round 6 #170 overall

2002: Mike Pearson, 6’7” 297lbs. OT Florida – Round 2 #40 overall


Carolina:

2003: Jordan Gross, 6’4” 300lbs. OT Utah – Round 1 #8 overall
Bruce Nelson 6’5” 301lbs. C Iowa – Round 2 #50 overall

2004: Travelle Wharton 6’4” 312lbs. G South Carolina - Round 3 #94 overall

2005: Evan Mathis 6’5” 304lbs. G Alabama - Round 3 #79 overall
Geoff Hangartner 6’5” 301lbs. C Texas A&M – Round 5 #169 overall
Joe Berger 6’5” 304lbs. T Michigan Tech – Round 6 #304 overall

2006: Rashard Butler 6’4” 293lbs. OT Miami (Fl) – Round 3 #89 overall
Will Montgomery 6’3” 312lbs. G Virginia Tech – Round 7 #234 overall

In all 20 O-lineman were taken during this time, and 11 of which were taken in the third round or higher. I also feel compelled to mention that all of the O-lineman taken whilst he was in Carolina fit in Dan Henning’s offense. Both men were there for the same amount of time essentially.
What should also be readily apparent is the size of the lineman drafted. There are no Leonard Davis’s or Bryant McKinnie’s. In fact the average height works out to be: 6’3.5” and 303.6lbs*. Also if we take those measurements and do a height to weight ratio we would show a 4.02.

*(please note there 5 O-lineman that I do not have height and weights for so the average is for 15 O-lineman).

Hardly earth movers or road graders here, more so it appears being athletic and mobile appear to be the name of the game. Such numbers support the recent roster purge of O-lineman; Shelton and Hadnot and our recent addition; Smiley and rumored additions; Fabini and Maurice Williams. The only real big guy is Carey, and even he slimmed down to a pretty low weight for him. All in all it appears that the trend in taking smaller (weight wise) more athletic O-lineman will continue.

Taking the numerical evidence gleamed from the info above I decided to glance over the O-lineman available in this year’s draft that fit this prototype. I tried NFlDraftCountdown.com but it didn’t have all the statistical information, so I used WalterFootball.com and FootballsFuture.com as guides for the numbers as they appear to be accurate. Here is what I came up with:


Tackles

Jake Long, Michigan
Height: 6-7. Weight: 313.
Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
Combine 40 Time: 5.17.
Benchx225: 37.
Height to Weight: 3.96
10 yd Split Time: 1.75


Ryan Clady, Boise State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 309.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
Benchx225: 24.
Height to Weight: 3.96

Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
Height: 6-6. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
Combine 40 Time: 5.07.
Arm: 32 7/8. Benchx225: 21
Height to Weight: 4.03
10 yd Split Time: 1.87


Sam Baker, USC
Height: 6-4. Weight: 309.
Projected 40 Time: 5.01.
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
Arm: 32 3/8. Benchx22
Height to Weight: 4.06 (rd)


Gosder Cherilus, Boston College
Height: 6-6. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 5.08.
Combine 40 Time: 5.21.
Arm: 35 5/8. Benchx225:
Height to Weight: 4.03
10 yd Split Time: 1.76


Anthony Collins, Kansas
Height: 6-5. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 4.98.
Combine 40 Time: 5.53.
Benchx225:
Height to Weight: 4.11


Tony Hills, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 4.99.
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
Benchx225:
Height to Weight: 3.86 (ru)


John Greco, Toledo
Height: 6-5. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Combine 40 Time: 5.31.
Benchx225: 30.
Height to Weight: 3.96


Oniel Cousins, UTEP
Height: 6-4. Weight: 308.
Projected 40 Time: 4.96.
Combine 40 Time: 5.11.
Arm: 34 7/8. Benchx225: 23
Height to Weight: 4.05


Jeremy Zuttah, Rutgers
Height: 6-3. Weight: 303.
Projected 40 Time: 5.06.
Combine 40 Time: 4.99.
Benchx225: 35.
Height to Weight: 4.04
10 yd Split Time: 1.85


Kirk Barton, Ohio State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.08.
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
Arm: 33 1/4. Benchx225: 34.
Height to Weight: 4.07



Bobby Byrd, Washington State
Height: 6-7. Weight: 315.
40 Time: 5.29.
Height to Weight: 3.98


Corey Clark, Texas A&M
Height: 6-6. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.07.
Combine 40 Time: 5.41.
Benchx225: 25.
Height to Weight: 4.06


Tyler Polumbus, Colorado
Height: 6-7. Weight: 312.
Projected 40 Time: 5.15.
Combine 40 Time: 5.33.
Arms: 32 4/8. Benchx225: 24.
Height to Weight: 3.95 (ru)


Charles Manu, Nevada
Height: 6-3. Weight: 300.
40 Time: 5.18.
Height to Weight: 4.0


David Hale, Weber State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 308.
Projected 40 Time: 5.19.
Combine 40 Time: 5.27.
Benchx225: 25.
Height to Weight: 3.95 (ru)


Guards

Branden Albert, Virginia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 309.
Projected 40 Time: 5.19.
Combine 40 Time: 5.17.
Benchx225:
Height to Weight: 4.01
10 yd Split Time: 1.71


Roy Schuening, Oregon State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 306.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
Combine 40 Time: 5.34.
Arm: 32 7/8. Benchx225: 26
Height to Weight: 4.08
10 yd Split Time: 1.91


Drew Radovich, USC
Height: 6-4. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.09.
Combine 40 Time: 5.21.
Arm: 33 1/2. Benchx225
Height to Weight: 3.96


Mike McGlynn, Pittsburgh
Height: 6-4. Weight: 309.
Projected 40 Time: 5.28.
Combine 40 Time: 5.36.
Arm: 32 7/8. Benchx225: 29
Height to Weight: 4.06


Eric Young, Tennessee
Height: 6-3. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.08.
Combine 40 Time: 5.03.
Benchx225:
Height to Weight: 4.13


Shannon Tevaga, UCLA
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.28
Height to Weight: 4.21


Chad Rinehart, Northern Iowa
Height: 6-5. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.08.
Combine 40 Time: 5.41.
Arm: 33 1/8. Benchx225:
Height to Weight: 4.11


Robert Felton, Arkansas
Height: 6-3. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 5.38.
Combine 40 Time: 5.46.
Arm: 34. Benchx225: 22
Height to Weight: 4.20


Donald Thomas, Connecticut
Height: 6-3. Weight: 303.
Projected 40 Time: 4.88.
Combine 40 Time: 5.00.
Benchx225: 28
Height to Weight: 4.04
10 yd Split Time: 1.78


Kirk Elder, Texas A&M
Height: 6-5. Weight: 305.
40 Time: 5.15
Height to Weight: 3.96


Brandon Rodd, Arizona State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 303.
40 Time: 5.19
Height to Weight: 3.98

Tad Miller, Boise State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 304.
40 Time: 5.20
Height to Weight: 4.0


Leon Hart, Auburn
Height: 6-4. Weight: 301.
40 Time: 5.00.
Height to Weight: 3.96


Kerry Brown, Appalachian State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 310.
40 Time: 5.16
Height to Weight: 3.97


Mike Gibson, California
Height: 6-4. Weight: 310.
40 Time: 5.17
Height to Weight: 4.07


Shawn Murphy, Utah State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 4.99.
Combine 40 Time: 5.32.
Benchx225: 29
Height to Weight: 4.01


James Blair, Western Michigan
Height: 6-4. Weight: 337.
Projected 40 Time: 5.41.
Combine 40 Time: 5.33.
Benchx225
Height to Weight: 4.43 (Only on here b/c we spoke to him at combine)


Robert Gustavis, Arizona State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 303.
40 Time: 5.32
Height to Weight: 4.04


Edwin Harrison, Colorado
Height: 6-4. Weight: 300.
40 Time: 5.33
Height to Weight: 3.94


Michael Galassi, Walsh
Height: 6-4. Weight: 305.
40 Time: 5.19
Height to Weight: 4.01

Centers

Mike Pollak, Arizona State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 299.
Projected 40 Time: 4.92. Combine 40 Time: 4.98.
Arm: 31 1/2. Benchx225
Height to Weight: 3.98


Steve Justice, Wake Forest
Height: 6-3. Weight: 293.
Projected Projected 40 Time: 5.06. Combine 40 Time: 5.22.
Arm: 31 1/2. Benchx225
Height to Weight: 3.90


John Sullivan, Notre Dame
Height: 6-3. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05. Combine 40 Time: 5.40.
Arm: 31 1/8. Benchx225: 21
Height to Weight: 4.01
10 yd Split Time: 1.93


Doug Legursky, Marshall
Height: 6-3. Weight: 311.
40 Time: 5.22
Height to Weight: 4.14


Cody Wallace, Texas A&M
Height: 6-4. Weight: 296.
Projected 40 Time: 5.22. Combine 40 Time: 5.27.
Arm: 33 3/8. Benchx225: 26
Height to Weight: 3.89
10 yd Split Time: 1.84


Jamey Richard, Buffalo
Height: 6-4. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.22. Combine 40 Time: 5.22.
Benchx225
Height to Weight: 3.96


Kory Lichtensteiger, Bowling Green
Height: 6-2. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 5.16. Combine 40 Time: 5.19.
Arm: 30 7/8. Benchx225
Height to Weight: 4.02


Robbie Powell, Purdue
Height: 6-5. Weight: 307.
40 Time: 5.08
Height to Weight: 3.98


Matt Spanos, USC
Height: 6-5. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.17. Combine 40 Time: 5.50.
Benchx225
Height to Weight: 3.96
10 yd Split Time: 2.00


Robbie Krutilla, Western Michigan
Height: 6-3. Weight: 308.
40 Time: 5.26
Height to Weight: 4.10


Adam Spieker, Missouri
Height: 6-3. Weight: 305.
40 Time: 5.14
Height to Weight: 4.06


Marcus Coleman, Wisconsin
Height: 6-6. Weight: 302.
40 Time: 5.14
Height to Weight: 3.87


Juan Garica, Washington
Height: 6-3. Weight: 315.
40 Time: 5.11.
Height to Weight: 4.20


Nick Allotta, Colorado State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 305.
40 Time: 5.22
Height to Weight: 4.06


Chris Yoder, Texas A&M
Height: 6-3. Weight: 299.
40 Time: 5.14
Height to Weight: 3.98


In case anyone was curious Smiley’s height to weight is 4.14, Maurice Williams; a guy we have apparently targeted in FA works out to be 4.09. Jason Fabini works out to be 3.91. Obviously the numbers are an approximation and will not be used as the sole source of drafting a guy over another, but it still has some merit. What the evidence shows me at least is that we want guys who are not too big to be mobile and active. Yet, they have to be strong enough to get the job done.

If anyone is curious as to how the other guys who are actually on the roster stack up:
Samson Satele: 6’3” 300lbs - Height to Weight: 4.0

Gene Mruczkowski: 6’2” 305lbs – Height to Weight: 4.12

Ikechuku Ndukwe: 6’4” 338lbs – Height to Weight: 4.44

Drew Mormino: 6’4” 301lbs – Height to Weight: 3.96

Trey Darilek: 6’5” 310lbs – Height to Weight: 4.02

Julius Wilson 6’4” 327lbs – Height to Weight: 4.30

Vernon Carey 6’5” 335lbs – Height to Weight: 4.35


As you can see the only guy who starts whose Height to Weight is high is Vernon Carey.

Now, in my opinion there are a few guys I personally would like us to consider:
Anthony Collins, Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Chris Williams, Jeremy Zuttah, Oniel Cousins, John Greco, Brandon Albert, Roy Schuening, Brandon Rodd, Donald Thomas, Chad Rinehart, Mike McGlynn, Robert Felton, Mike Pollak, Shannon Tevaga and Steve Justice.

I hope this numerical information and breakdown will help those of you interested, all the rest I hope I have not you blind in the process of reading this. I do realize some of the names on here go a bit outside of a normal parameter in my mind on the Height to Weight Index, but in my mind they are deserving players who should be considered on skill, and the ole eye ball test as well.

 

He obviously has a say, he's their position coach. But, obviously the GM or whoever has the final say. But, to say the same type of O-linemanhave been drafted and say that there has to be no type of involvement by Maser would be fofeiting available evidence.