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Morning News - TE Keller/WR Brandon Gibson - Updated Mike Wallace Deal

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  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Damnit!
     
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  2. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Ravens have the ultimate piece though in a franchise QB. Even if they suck this year, they could easily rebuild.

    Wonder if it comes with a happy ending.
     
  3. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That is true actually. Development Wallace has gotten however didn't happen at Ole Miss.
     
  4. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You referring to Gibson. I read last night that Gibson was actually rated in the top 50 free agents by some publications. I will try to find the list I found that had him in the top 50. They liked his potential, abeit as a Hartline type.
     
  5. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Got to start looking at cbs. That situation is about as set as TE, and I would argue in worse shape. I am hoping for Lewis, Cason, or Munnerlyn, or all three.
     
  6. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I'm not particularly concerned with other peoples' lists.
     
  7. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    If they are trying to move Bess....what could he feasibly get us? I can't see them paying out for a #4 WR....so this just makes me think it's got to be Bess on the outs.
     
  8. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Cason was one of my favorite college corners of the past 10 years. He had good ball skills at Arizona, and I was hoping we'd draft him. So if he is signed that would make me happy. Best in a zone, and we are said to be changing to more zone so he fits, and fits better than Sean Smith would.
     
  9. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan New Member

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    I only like this Gibson thing if we are pulling in a 4th round pick for Bess, which ain't happenin' folks.

    So yeah I hate this. I only want Bess gone if we draft Bailey.
     
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  10. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I volunteer FinD to perform it.
     
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  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    I'm flattered but I don't think I'm qualified to rebuild the Ravens.
     
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  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    And..there we go.

    Land that one Ireland and I move to Neutral/leaning positive
     
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  13. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    I think its good. Get some stability at the position and then draft a guy
     
  14. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    If they sign Keller, that's one more piece...could they then want to see if Egnew can develop before throwing him off the heap ?? Keller also throws some intrigue into who we choose in the draft...
     
  15. CANDolphan

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    Don't think about Egnew. It'll just make you really confused and angry that a 6'5 260 lb man who runs a 4.52 40 with a 11 foot broad jump and 37 inch vertical and 22 bench reps can't get on a football field to make plays.
     
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  16. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    it's sad is what it is.
     
  17. Boomer

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    Don't write Egnew off just yet. Lot more of that race to be run.
     
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  18. ckparrothead

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    I just want to see him get a chance. For many reasons. I can and have pointed to many plays he made in college (we're talking eye poppers) against the likes of Lavonte David and Arthur Brown and other standout NFL players in college. To this day his preseason catch against the Buccaneers was probably the 2nd most or maybe even most impressive catch any Miami tight end had last year. I've pointed out coaches tape still frames showing he's open on plays.

    If it's a matter of playbook, yeah maybe he didn't quite get that down in his first year, but how long can anyone really go without knowing the playbook? That's not going to be a career impacting problem, will it?
     
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  19. Fineas

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    I haven't given up on Egnew at all. It was frustrating that they wouldn't play him at all. My understanding/assumption was that they didn't trust his blocking, but the interest in Cook and Keller tells me they aren't that concerned about blocking from the TE position. Anyhow, there have been many TE's that did virtually nothing as rookies and still became great NFL players. And the limited PT that Lamar Miller got even after flashing pretty well in limited opportunities tells me the offensive coaches may have been excessively cautious about playing young skill position players (Of course, the fact that Tannehill started from Week 1 suggests otherwise, but . . .).
     
  20. Section126

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    I already filled mine out, so, Here you go guys, in case you hadn't gotten your form yet:

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  21. rafael

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    I don't believe it was the blocking. IMO it was that he wasn't very smart. He didn't make the right adjustments and he didn't know the playbook.
     
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  22. Stringer Bell

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    IIRC they were worried about him making mistakes. I'm not sure if he isn't smart, it seems more of an issue of him being nervous/tentative/absent-minded out there.
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    I think nerves is a good way to put it as people that have spoken with him say he's very smart, and I've read the things he's written on his blog/website and there's no doubting it, IMO.

    I think he's just got kind of a soft, nervous temperament. He lacks confidence.
     
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  24. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That would fit with the report that team mates thought he was a p*ssy.
     
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  25. Fin D

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    Ah....he's like Finyank.....
     
  26. Fineas

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    Could be, but I think you expect rookies to make some mistakes, but usually try to get that out of their system early. If you need to build confidence, use him in situations where the mental demands are pretty limited but where he can get used to playing, etc. They acted like they were worried the grass might catch fire if Egnew stepped onto it.
     
  27. DPlus47

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    I've been off on a 2 year hiatus topping off my education. Wisdom like this is one of the reasons I have missed this place. Thank you, Section!
     
  28. Boomer

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    You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if that came from Karlos Dansby.
     
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  30. Lee2000

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    Barnes, Lewis, Munnerlyn, and Cason. That would be a great haul on defense. And Winston, Keller, and a rb and wr if reasonable. Notice I didn't say Gibson, but I am not as bothered by his presence as some of you are. I still believe one or two wrs will be drafted, with a kid like Vernon from Duke late in the draft maybe. I expect at least 2 cbs, a safety, and a tight end as well, not to mention OL help.
     
  31. ckparrothead

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    More likely Richie Incognito, IMO.
     
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  32. Fin D

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    Agreed.

    If we're right, its very possible Ritchie said it to mess with Egnew, like Egnew was around when it was said.
     
  33. Lee2000

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    I just wonder if that philosophy will work for Egnew. This is a third round pick, and he needs to contribute. What ever comes from the team regarding him should stay within the club house. I want Egnew to succeed. He is being called unintelligent, passionless, and so forth. He needs to be encouraged. I want him to bring his talents to the field.
     
  34. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    To Richie, most everyone is a p#ssy. :)
     
  35. Den54

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    AMERICA!

    It's a mans game and a mans locker room. If Ritchie called him a pu**y, he should slugged the guy.
     
  36. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Not if it was in jest. People are allowed to joke with one another.
     
  37. Boomer

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    I only say Dansby because I know that Dansby was leaking a lot of stuff to Salguero who was the ***** breaker. So to speak.
     
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  38. ckparrothead

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    I hear ya. If the quote were. "Yanno, he's a...uhh..a *****, man. Isslikeyousaid, he's a *****. Yanno."

    Then I would agree.
     
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    [​IMG] notwithstanding...
     
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  40. ckparrothead

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    I just remember that exchange on Hard Knocks where Richie rubbed it in on Egnew that he stole his iPad and messed around on Facebook with it. He said something like, "Who's that girlfriend of yours, the ugly one."

    Egnew just looked back at him and said, "That's my fiancee".

    (insert awkward moment)

    (everyone walks off)

    I could see Richie Incognito being the kind of guy that would lose a little respect for Egnew because he didn't stand up and defend his fiancee. From Richie's face you could tell he knew he might have just stepped over the line. But Egnew said nothing. Absolutely nothing.
     

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