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Morning News - TE Keller/WR Brandon Gibson - Updated Mike Wallace Deal

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  1. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin RIP Phinsational Luxury Box Club Member

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    6 pages and not one of you knuckleheads said a word about financially preferring Greg Jennings over the pair of Hartline & Gibson and then using the draft to replace the other one? What the deuce.
     
  2. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Oh, I definitely prefer Greg Jennings over Mike Wallace.
     
  3. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Did not know that.
     
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  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Should have signed him 2 years ago for that $1.5 million a year deal San Diego got out of him, much as they should have signed Phil Wheeler a year ago for $1.5 million a year instead of having to sign him for $5 million a year...but better late than never.
     
  5. Springveldt

    Springveldt Season Ticket Holder

    And in other news, water is wet. :)
     
  6. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan New Member

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    Hahahaha. I love the subtle dry humor.
     
  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Why do they call it a pressed sandwich? Does that mean the press the bread flat? How does that improve it?
     
  8. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I am just excited things have been shaken up a bit. It will lead to some form of necessary change one way or the other. A light goes on for Ireland, or he will be turning off the light for the last time in his office. (I know that sounded cruel, but I didn't mean it to be).
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's 28 so here's hoping he's still got the juice..
     
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Compresses the air out of the sandwich, marries the favors, and most importantly in a Cuban, crisps up the bread baby..
     
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  11. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    y platanos fritos...... Aye!
     
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  12. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    For those saying Welker isn't the same without Brady, how'd he do with Cassel in 2008?
     
  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I really hope the Dolphins are just attempting to make Brandon Gibson more expensive for the Jets.
     
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  14. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Plus Bill Parcells was pumping Cribbs as a WR he would want , at this point just say no to fat Bill. Kidding ... well , sort of .
     
  15. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Bernard Pollard released.
    Do It Ireland.
    Lets tear the Patriots a few new ACLs.
     
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  16. Canad-phin

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    Do you like Jennings at 10-11 mil/yr which he's asking for instead of Wallace for 12? Not me. Jennings for that much is overpaying.
     
  17. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Absolutely!! Jennings is a much better receiver than Wallace. I'd go up to $35 million over 3 years to get Jennings. Jennings is a complete receiver. Wallace is a one trick pony. Your damn straight I'd pay more for Jennings than I would Wallace.
     
  18. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I had no idea.

    Can you elaborate on why?

    I don't think you have made yourself clear.

    What do you think about Mike Wallace's route running?
     
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  19. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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  20. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Did a little research on why Laurent was cut by Jags. He had 4 concussions last year per rotoworld.com.
     
  21. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I hope for our sake as Dolphin fans that he becomes that complete wr. That is asking a lot from a Rebel. You and I understand that more than most on this board given Wallace is one of Ed O. recruits.
     
  22. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    they spread butter on the bread..they then put it in a sandwich press, and it puts it all together:

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    AMERICA!
    ^I like the honey butter myself.
     
  24. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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  25. Larryfinfan

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    Well, I did say "Brady and NE"...in inference was the system he was in...but do you think if he'd been traded to most any other team he'd have been quite as successful ?? I'm not really dissing WW, but he's worth more to that system than to just about any other system....
     
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  26. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    More on Antwan Barnes.

    PFF has a "Signature Stat" they recently developed which I like. I like it because I've been doing something extremely similar by hand since PFF first started putting out their stuff in 2008. Now that they're on board with this way of thinking about things, it's nice because I don't have to do it all by hand anymore. It's called "Pass Rush Productivity". The exact formula doesn't matter that much and it can be tinkered with but they have it as Sacks plus 0.75*Hits plus 0.75*Pressures, all divided by pass rush snaps. What's nice is since PFF has added it to their repertoire and they have such detailed position data (literally every position a player played on every single snap)....they're able to break this into right side versus left side, which I wasn't able to do before because they didn't make the data available.

    So anyway from 2008 to 2012 there have been 137 players that have taken at least 400 pass rush snaps. Why did I cut it off at 400? Because that equates to about one season's worth of pass rush snaps for a full time player. It's arbitrary but it doesn't really matter.

    Anyway where does Barnes rank in Total Pass Rush Productivity among those 137 players? He ranks #6 overall. Brandon Graham (the guy I would've drafted in 2010 at 12 overall) ranks #1, and Cameron Wake comes in at #2. Then Aldon Smith, then John Abraham (my top target free agent defensive end target), then Demarcus Ware. And then Antwan Barnes.

    But we're not just looking for a pass rusher. We're looking for a RIGHT SIDE pass rusher, because Cameron Wake is pretty well entenched in the left side and has seemed to resist being moved to the other side full time. He's used to the left, and he's positively deadly from the left, whereas his PRP number from the right is extremely pedestrian, so keep him on the left. If you sort through all the pass rushers and take the ones that have rushed the passer 200+ times from the right side and tally up their right side only PRP figure...Antwan Barnes ranks #2 out of 116. Only Aldon Smith has done better.
     
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  27. TiP54

    TiP54 Bad Reputation

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    Whats the word on Dustin Keller? Other than he was in Miami this morning meeting with our people?
    At work, cant really keep up with twitter.
     
  28. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    How about we go

    1. Eiffert
    2. Kelce
     
  29. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    I recall reading somewhere that Jake will reportedly give Miami a chance to match the Rams offer. Don't know if that's been done already.

    It's almost 1 and I don't believe there's been any confirmation of Jake signing with the Rams yet. Perhaps Sec is right and his wife is nagging the hell out of him to take the Dolphins offer.
     
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  30. ckparrothead

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    LMAO.

    Uhh, yyyeaaah...about that...
     
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  31. LiferYank

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    If it doesnt hurt the cap to much nag away Longs wife Nag away!
     
  32. thisperishedmin

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    Seriously though...what the **** is happening in Baltimore?

    The 2013 B lt m re Ra e s
     
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  33. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

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    Three words, Joe Flacco contract.
     
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  34. HULKFish

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    How could we possibly need another TE, when we have the incomparible Michael Egnew on the roster??? Just doesn't make sense? LMBO! Grab Keller to go with a hopefully IMPROVING Clay, and draft a guy, or make a trade. I'm sad we lost Fasano though, loved the guy.
     
  35. Colmax

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    Orgeron was/is a damn fine talent evaluator. Just wasn't much of a HC.
     
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  36. jdang307

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    God damn you just made me hungry and it's only 10:30 here
     
  37. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    RT @ArmandoSalguero Source: Dolphins plan to give Dustin Keller the full treatment. Meet. Dinner at nice place #nyj
     
  38. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    The way Armando worded made the Dolphins sound like a J-Spa.
     
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  39. KB21

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    One if the biggest cheaters in college football. Right up there with Hugh Freeze.
     
  40. Phins_Fan_87

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