LMAO dude is effin terrified. Do u see him looking over that outside shoulder to see if Wallace is smoking him or not? Like a goal tender who thinks he got scored on looking back into the net. He's totally lost, and ain't bc of Wallace's speed? Yeah right.
Ok, one question for the anti-Wallace crowd, would you be happier if we had not changed our WR corps at all from last year? Just lined up with Hartline, Bess and Matthews from the get go instead?
Theyd be thrilled bc then they could crucify Ireland for not doing anything to fix the WR position. But u bring up the real question. Would we be better off without Wallace?
No Bess. Hartline, Gibson, and Matthews. The team would be a lot better off giving extra reps to Matthews. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Exactly. Wallace becomes a huge problem if the offense can run the ball and force some single high coverages to work play action against and/or protect long enough for him to run vertical routes, digs, posts, deep come backs, etc.
This is ridiculous. The safety made no move toward Wallace. And his "rotation" had nothing to do with the TD. He's playing zone. His "rotation" was to the center of his zone. A safety covering a deep zone is not moving his position to account for a receiver on the other side of the field who never comes within 15-20 yards of that deep zone. His post-snap movement is governed by the contours of his zone not the WRs on the field. The S took a bad angle and whiffed on the tackle. TD. That's about it.
Yes I likely am smarter than most, but they aren't the ones signing the checks. Mike Wallaces biggest impact was made before he ever stepped on the field. It was a move that was widely praised by most fans. This was right in the middle of the teams push to get subsidies from aforementioned fans. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
^ I disagree with you Stringer Bell. Mike Wallace provides an X factor that Bess, Hartline, Gibson, Matthews, Binns, or any other receiver we have had here since forever can provide. Even going back to the days of Chris Chambers, or even further back to OJ Mcduffie. Those were average receivers in my opinion who were put into the spot of having to be number one go to guys. Mike Wallace at times has shown to be the fastest man in the NFL. That could never be said about OJ Mcduffie or 45 year old (kidding) Tony Martin during his second stint with us. Wallace has taken some time to get going but I think he's finally turned the corner. Thats not to say that he wont have another quiet game here and there, but despite how frustrating he's been this year he is on pace for 1,000 yards and more importantly he's starting to find the endzone. After all the reason we signed Mike Wallace was to be a deep threat for Ryan Tannehill and score touchdowns. There are plenty of guys in this league that can fly down the field but Aldrick Robinson and Clyde Gates never seem to score or make plays when they need to be made. Thats what is supposed to seperate Mike Wallace from those guys that are just fast and nothing more. I don't want to speak too soon but I think Wallace and Tannehill are starting to figure this thing out. If there is ever a time where we really need Mike Wallace it will be this Sunday..Fittingly against his former team. In fact if we want to make the playoffs Mike Wallace the pro bowler has to show up big time these last four games. If he does then I think that, the slow start he's had is more than forgiven. So help me God though, if he disappears in a big time game when we need him the most i'll be first in line to roast his ***. He needs to string together more than two good games in a row for me to re kindle my faith in him. I've explained how talented he is, but I also recognize that he hasn't shown up the way we thought he would this year. He needs to make these last four games count.
I'm not anti-Wallace. I like him just fine. I think his salary could be better spent elsewhere but it wasn't so no point lamenting that. I do think our passing game would be just about the same without him. Maybe a little worse, but not that much. I see no reason to think Tannehill wouldn't have improved at least a little. His rating has gone from 76 to 83. Without Wallace maybe it would be 80-81. Then again, maybe it would be higher. Tannehill's rating when throwing to Wallace is 63.5 which is actually bringing his overall rating down pretty considerably. His rating when throwing to the other WRs is between 86 and 96. And no, I don't think that is due to Wallace. His rating throwing to Hartline is virtually the same as it was last year without Wallace.
That's pretty thin. Why not throw a ton of cash at Gruden or Cowherd, that'd move the needle more than any player outside of Peyton.
On the field, I'd say not better off without him, but there is the cap hit, as with any big UFA signing.
Mike Wallace has 3 TDs in 104 targets. Aldrick Robinson has 2 TDs in 19 targets. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
So, had we kept Bess and signed only Gibson, we'd be lining up with Bess, Hartline and Matthews now because Gibson is out. You think defenses would play us the same if it were Bess lined up in Wallace's spot?
Yes. We wouldn't be any worse than we are now, and we could have used a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a young receiver like Keenan Allen, who has been better as a rookie than Mike Wallace has been as an overpaid free agent.
Because they wouldn't accept? The team went after Jeff Fisher before Joe Philbin. Either way, if Miami didn't sign Wallace they'd have to spend that money on someone just to meet the salary floor. Stephen Ross had to spend that money on someone. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
yeah it's a bummer Tannehill has had trouble with his deep ball this year.... but maybe we should keep things in perspective for when he gets fully on track. Since 2009 Wallace: 35 TD in 509 targets. Fitzgerald: 40 TD in 732 targets. Marshall: 39 TD in 764 targets. A Johnson: 28 TD in 672 targets.
And if he ever produces like he did years ago, the discussion will change I'm sure. At this point we are just hoping he "gets on track". Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Brandon Marshall made you guys look silly, now Mike Wallace is doing the same thing. These guys didn't become worse WRs once they stepped foot in Miami, they are the same player in a different situation.
Not sure why people think its impossible to be smarter than a coach/gm. There are millions of extremely bright people oyt there who simply never get a chance to do anything with their lives or choose a different path.
Fair enough, I just dont think someone is conceited for saying it. Now whether it is true in any given case is a different story lol.
It's far from impossible, but the odds you will find someone on a message board smarter than a coach/GM are slim. Anyone can research numbers, but there is an insight inside the game that those guys are privy too that we are not.
I never said Marshall wasn't a good player. He's a great player. His issue is his mental illness. Mike Wallace also wasnt very good last year in Pittsburgh. He isnt a guy that was elite until he came to Miami. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
He is who I thought he was.. A game breaking WR who can put 6 on the board real quick...and he has put our team in situations to make those plays. As a WR you can't control much else. I'll say this also, he is a MUCH better blocker than I ever gave him credit for.
And? It's very clear to see that if we hadn't wasted money on free agent receivers, we could have gotten Keenan Allen in the third round instead of this turd of a linemen we drafted in Dallas Thomas and built the receiving corps with the system. Rishard Matthews and Keenan Allen would have been a great base for the future. As it is, the only receiver we have that will be here in 2016 is Matthews.
What they should have done to spend that money is go ahead and give Randy Starks, Paul Soliai, and Chris Clemons the extensions they should get, resign Jake Long, and trade for Branden Albert.
No, he did not. Contrary to common belief, the salary floor does not apply to a single season. It applies to a 4-year period from 2013 to 2016. Stephen Ross could've easily not spent a dime this offseason (or the next one, for that matter) and comfortably make the salary floor. In addition, the penalty for failing to meet the floor is incredibly weak: the team simply has to make up the difference.
Allen would have been nice but he was taken one pick before Thomas. Then again, Marquise Goodwin and Markus Wheaton were taken right after Thomas. Still pissed that we didn't draft a DE in a deep class instead of Jelani Jenins in the 4th rd, particularly Devin Taylor.
He hasn't produced numbers like that in his past 35 games. Over his past 35 games, he has caught 14 TD passes in 149 receptions. This is after catching 11 TDs in 61 receptions during his first 24 games of his career. That TD production actually declined some, but not much, over his next 16 games, which overall is his most productive span as a receiver in his career. During that time, he caught 10 TDs on 81 receptions. There has been a steady decline in his production since the midpoint of the 2011 season. These are things our illustrious front office should have taken into account but didn't. All Jeff Ireland saw was speed, speed, speed. He didn't take into account scheme fit or evaluate anything else with Mike.
His peak was a 16 game span that ended about 35 games ago. He's been in steady decline since then. It is highly unlikely that he is suddenly going to peak above that production in this system, as he has not learned how to do anything but use his speed. Looking at the statistical trend on him, I find it much more likely that he will continue his overall decline until the team cuts him after the third year of this contract. Particularly in a timing based passing game. He simply cannot play and be productive in a timing offense. He's not good enough as a route runner and is piss poor as a blocker and at reading coverages. Here's the trend: 1st 24 games: 61 receptions, 1,203 yards, 11 TDs, 20.7 yards per reception next 16 games: 81 receptions, 1,550 yards, 10 TDs, 19.1 yards per reception next 23 games: 93 receptions, 1,229 yards, 11 TDs, 13.2 yards per reception Miami 12 games: 56 receptions, 743 yards, 3 TDs, 13.3 yards per reception Note that he had 64 for 863 and 8 last year in Pittsburgh after they moved to a timing oriented offense.
Piss poor as a blocker... THIS GUY DOESNT WATCH FOOTBALL GAMES, SIMPLY REFERENCES STATS THAT "HE" DEEMS WORTHY. Shou-like.
