Per Arrrrmmmmmaaaaaannnnnddooooooooo http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...phins-working-to-land-mike-sherman-as-oc.html I like this move personally. Perhaps a three-way QB competition with Moore, Flynn, and Tannehill?
The more people come into the staff who have a track record of knowing what the hell they're doing, the better off we'll be. I always wondered why we kept hiring coordinators and coaches from losing organizations.
all it takes is one multi-game injury to Flynn and the rookie or backup to play better to change that perception.
I always dislike when people pose this as a red flag. In any business, of course you'd rather get the best candidate and hope they have a long tenure to increase success in your organization. but realistically, getting a couple good years out of a better prospect/candidate is better than settling for the next tier candidate who will have the longer tenure.
Exactly, plus it is in Sherman's best interest to coach the hell out of Miami's offense and make sure they are successful. That is what I want. Someone who wants the offense to be as successful as possible. EDIT: Even though I hate Saban with a passion, I did like the fact that when he set up his staff, he always tried to set up someone that knew what to do and someone to be under him ready to take over if he left for better job.
That's not an open QB competition. If we do sign Flynn to anything approaching the level of the Kolb contract, he will be given every opportunity to prove himself before we fall back on Moore. Totally irrelevant comment.
Moore's deal was like 2 years for $4.5-5.0M while Henne's rookie contract was probably 4 years for $5.0M or something. I don't see how we threw a bunch of money at Henne and declared him starter.
Can anyone elaborate on what type of offense he would run? Or maybe point me in the right direction? Quick google search at work and I can't find anything in particular.
Generally, he has run a West Coast Offense basically what GB runs now at least in terms of passing. At TAMU he ran a pro-style offense with a zone blocking run scheme (I don't know what blocking scheme GB uses). I think we should expect a WCO and zone blocking scheme here. In fact, when Philbin made that comment about telling players that all they have to do is count to four, I thought he was talking about how many OL coaches teach their OL to zone block (so I'm guessing they zone block).
Thanks, will def. be easier to learn about west coast offense with a google search. I know the general premise, but I want to start learning the micro x's and o's aspects of football.
Sherman isn't a zone blocking guy, at least not to the extent that Packers were after or some of the other guys. The Packers installed that when Mike McCarthy took over. If you go look at old Packers stuff, or even interestingly even when Mike Sherman was OC of the Texans under Gary Kubiak, there was a lot more man blocking.
First of all I will wait for an announcement from the Dolphins before I get too excited about who the next offensive coordinator will be. As far as a competition between Moore, Flynn, and Tannehill, I don't see this ever happening. If the Dolphins do decide to sign Flynn, there is no way they are going to pay him the money he will be signing for to come in and compete for the starting QB position. If the Dolphins sign Flynn, he is the starter from day one and Moore will go back to being the backup. Also if the Dolphins do sign Flynn, I don't see them taking another QB early in the draft. They would already have their starter and their backup on the team and with all the other holes to fill, there would be no need to draft a QB until possibly in the later rounds of the draft, if they draft one at all. If Flynn is not the choice and the Dolphins somehow end up with Manning next year. The selection of Tannehill in the second round would make sense. Some individuals on here don't think he would last until the second round, but he is not worth a top ten pick and assuming Manning was already signed, a top offensive lineman would make a lot more sense with the Dolphins first pick. I figure that the Dolphins will either try to sign Manning or Flynn, and whichever one comes to Miami will be the teams starting QB next year. I see Moore as the backup in 2012 and he will be playing for another team in 2013. He will become a free agent after the 2012 season and he will want to go somewhere he can compete for a starting job. Ross and Ireland have made it very clear that their number one priority now is to upgrade the QB position. This obviously is their way of telling Moore that while he did an adequate job this past season, they have no intention of him being the starting QB in 2012.
Way to go mando... throw it at the wall since it sounds plausible. Then celebrate if it sticks... Since TB hired a coach, Sherman must go to Miami! I mean, sure... it makes sense I guess.. .but I'll wait for a confirmed report that Sherman has signed.
Very true, Ohio...I thought the same about Nolan when he came on...that we'd lose him in a season...(of course, I never thought he'd want out, but that's another story). The one advantage to this hire would be that they have the same vision as to what the O should look like and especially if it's only a 1 yr thing, it'll be enough to get the O set up and going, naturally depending on the QB position. Sherman suffered a setback at TAMU, so we might even get a couple of years from him...unless the O really takes off this coming season...
Well, Philbin has worked under Sherman before, so unless he shocks us all, it'll be a version of the WCO... Sherman's worked with Holmgren and Payton in Houston so that should give us the clue that he's going to run a version of the WCO and may put in a bit of the Zone blocking run game that Payton runs...we'll see soon enough...I don't see this taking very long although the sense I get from Philbin is that he's going to announce several, if not all the moves at once...
Who said anything about money? Not I, Henne was annointed the starter in 2010 and 2011, there was no competition, it turned out poorly, thusly the lesson should be learned that a borderline Qb should always be pushed in a competition until they prove themselves. Paying Flynn a boatload of cash and not tossing him into a competition for the job does not sound like a good idea.
If you watched TAMU, they were a zone blocking team under Sherman, which is exactly as I said in my post. I would say that he clearly is a zone blocking guy now.
Schiano from Rutgers. When it's all said and done, I think Miami fans are overreacting. I suspect that of the three Florida teams, we're the clear cut best destination for any coach.
Not to be stupid, but can anyone describe "Zone Blocking" vs. blocking the man in front of you/pulling, whatever? I've heard of Zone Blocking for years of course (I know Denver used to do it a lot), but I really haven't studied it. I could probably figure it out, but if anyone has a good description, please post.
if this Texans board is accurate, it sounds like they used a combo of zone and man blocking http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40493
maybe now the Jets can fire Sparano for the ****ty season he was about to give them and hire Daboll as an upgrade. Wait, never mind.
If that's true, then hasta la pasta, Incognito. Time's approaching for your last name to become your reality in Miami.
One of the posters here referred to it as the SBO...South Beach Offense...personally, I like that. No one really seems to know what exactly the WCO is nowadays... http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...sweblog+(Miami+Dolphins+|+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs)
In very general terms man blocking is one on one and zone blocking is team-up blocking. There may be different ways, but I learned and taught it where you double teamed the point of attack. I've always preferred it for two reasons. One, you don't need to have great OL across the board. Two, if you have a one cut runner than you can usually avoid negative plays.
Zone blocking has generally favored smaller, more mobile linemen so imagine Incognito, Carey and Columbo are all at risk.
