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Michael Egnew doing MMA training

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Claymore95, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Claymore95

    Claymore95 Working on it... Club Member

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    Both Ben Volin and Omar Kelly have tweeted that Egnew is doing MMA training this offseason. Don't know if it's his own idea or not, but like that he's doing something this offseason that might address a strength/technique issue that might help his blocking out.


    If he's putting the work in this offseason, and his blocking improves enough to be adequate, we may still end up with a TE and 3rd round pick worth keeping.
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I like the proactive approach. I question whether it will give him a different mentality on the field.

    But then I also question the theory that his mentality prevents him from doing anything.

    You're in Edinburgh? You from there? I was there about a year or two ago.
     
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  3. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    With Jay Glazer and Richie Incognito?

    Could be a smart *** and asked if it is for a career change , but I won't ;)
     
  4. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Why don't these guys do 'football' training in the off-season. Don't spend 6 months learning a triangle choke. Spend 6 months getting strong and learning how to block.

    I'm shocked some old ball coaches don't open an off-season "football training school."
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Must...learn..playbook..if..they make him tap out but only let him when he can recall a play when asked, then I'm all for it.
     
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  6. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Good stuff. Make him tough, and not a big *****.
     
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  7. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That is what he needs the most IMO. I'm no shrink but he looks like a lamb from what I've seen on hard knocks. He needs to be a lion.
     
  8. MikeHoncho

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    Not sure if care. Refine your route running and learn to block. Not entirely sure how being roundhouse kicked/punched in the face repeatedly and getting choked out helps him do this, but more power to him if it does.
     
  9. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I wonder if he'll be inactive for all his MMA matches, too.

    (couldn't resist)
     
  10. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    What I wonder is what all of you that have already written Egnew off would have said about Jermichael Finley after his first year in Green Bay? I think people look at what Finley is today and don't realize that he played all of 82 snaps when he was a rookie. Egnew played 25 snaps.
     
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  11. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Because part of what he may be correcting is not seeming, feeling or acting like a "kitty".
     
  12. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    That'll make him smarter.
     
  13. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    yeah, thats not going to make him stop sucking.
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is sort of what I was thinking.
     
  15. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    His favorite move is the "rear naked choke"
     
  16. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I didn't watch Finley closely as a rookie, to be fair. But with Hard Knocks, I got a lot of glimpses of Egnew that left me feeling he had emotional issues or something. Ones that directly correlated to a seeming reluctance to crash into other guys as an aggressive blocker. Like he was allergic to it and only did it if yelled at enough. You can all think I'm off base, but I've worked with enough clients with these kinds of traits that I kind of get the signals. BElieve me, I PRAY I am wrong because no one deserves that past, or the scars it leaves on them psychologically.

    Anyways, I left with the impression of a guy with an abusive past, who only is willing to attack other guys with his body when someone is abusive enough towards him that it pushes the abusive-authority-figure reflex in him. Ironically, I think he would have performed under Mike Maser, despite being an emotional shambles.

    And before the 'what does that have to do with football' brigade comes out, what did Michael Oher's emotional story have to do with his utter unwillingness to be aggressive on the football field when his high school coaches tried to make him hit other guys (I think they tried him on defense first, if I am not mistaken)? What did it have to do with him flourishing once moved to a position where he got to protect someone instead? I think there is more to Egnew's situation than lack of technique.

    The MMA thing, if Dan Carpenter's idea, could prove brilliant. It helps with levarage and hand technique in some ways, sure. It also builds confidence and lets a person feel safe... a big deal for victims of childhood abuse. Beyond that, it lets Michael begin to see that he can be aggressive in a controlled way and it's okay. At the very least, no one will call him a p***** in the locker room again. Here's hoping it helps.
     
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  17. Fineas

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    I think it is pretty obvious what they would have said about Finley.
     
  18. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    Good. He needs to get the sh*t beat outta him. Needs some toughness evidently.
     
  19. padre31

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    I think this is his issue in a nutshell, it is not toughness, if you do not know the playbook, you will not play very often.

    I've heard in week 17 he still did not know the offense plays that he was involved in, I bag on coaches for being to cautious but if you do not know your assignment, a coach cannot put you on the field unless they absolutely have to play you.
     
  20. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    Does this have anything to do with the addition of women now competing in the UFC?
     
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  21. finsincebirth

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    MMA training should go a long way in improving his core strength, as well as lower body strength and balance. Those three things should go a long way in improving his ability as a football player especially since he struggles in blocking. Furthermore it should also increase his flexibility. I don't so how this is a bad thing at all.
     
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  22. finsincebirth

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    It's not unusual for athletes to employ alternative methods of training during their off-season. Whether it be yoga or something else, guys have been doing it for years. It also usually helps round out their game.
     
  23. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, joking aside there is no doubt this will transfer to improving his physical skill set.
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Man, you guys are mean. MMA training has helped a good number of NFL players improve the following season. I like this development; it shows Egnew is serious about the opportunity in front of him.

    They already have football training schools. They're called OTAs.
     
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  25. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Yup which is why I think we don't see Patterson as our pick at #12. It seems like this will be a repeated pattern for guys on offensive skill positions. They will have to excel fast to get on the field as a rookie.
     
  26. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Where did it say it was Carpenter's idea?
     
  27. Claymore95

    Claymore95 Working on it... Club Member

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    Yes, born and bred and still here. Were you here visiting during Festival time or was it business?

    Been to the US twice, but never made it down to Miami unfortunately, so funnily enough have only seen the Dolphins live twice, both times in London. First time was way back in '88 when a Dave Archer rushing TD (!) in the last minute won them a pre-season game against the 'Niners.
     
  28. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Was in Edinburgh during the festival , had great time , easy to get around , very visitor friendly.
     
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  29. SICK

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    You mean....football practice?

    Dude, these guys made it to the highest level of football there is....sometimes other methods of physical exercise will benefit they're football skills. My coach in college had all of the linemen doing ballet for balance and core strength, yoga, etc. It's also not uncommon at all for nfl players to train mma. Jay Glazer is at the forefront of most of it.
     
  30. Da 'Fins

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    Though I have not written Egnew off - I am skeptical about him. But, I certainly hope he develops and becomes a really good player for us. That would be fantastic! At the same time, there is quite a difference. Finley's first year, Green Bay had a very good offense with a lot of talent (Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson at WR, Ryan Grant at RB). They put up 48 TDs to Miami's 31 last year. So, they could afford to play a steadier, veteran TE who would not be prone to make as many mistakes.

    But, he certainly deserves every opportunity in the world.

    (unrelated - I cannot say the same for Daniel Thomas). ;)
     
  31. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You Club Member

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    I think Jerry Rice did ballet to improve his footwork/agility.
     
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  32. RoninFin4

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    Didn't Mike and Maurkice Pouncey do pilates last offseason? Whatever helps, I'm for it.
     
  33. Sethdaddy8

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    5 out of 12 months of practice isn't enough for everyone, and OTAs are hardly intense.
     
  34. GreysonWinfield

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    Can he afford the chance of loosing any oxygen to that walnut between his ears?
     
  35. Desides

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    Your proposed ex-coach football training school would be short due to the requirements that players attend workouts and OTAs, and a cakewalk to prevent injury.
     
  36. Bpk

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    It didn't. Since he's his position coach it's one possibility. That's why I'm saying if it was Carpenter, I think that's a good suggestion.

    May have been Egnew's own idea, right out his own Egnoggin.
     
  37. ToddPhin

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    The guy needs to play with better balance & blocking coordination and do a better job defeating defenders attempts to win the hand battle or slip off blocks. MMA training could do him some good IMO.
     
  38. Fin-Omenal

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    Sweet, Travis Kelce will need a decent backup.
     
  39. ToddPhin

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    We're in trouble if Kelce is our starter IMO. He doesn't excite me in the least and seems like a poor man's Fasano and a non-fit in a Philbin offense.
     
  40. UCF FINatic

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    Agreed. He needs to be playing that online game that helps improve your brain and memory... What an idiot lol.
     

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