Miami Dolphins rookie Jimmy Wilson, once accused of murder, gets fresh chance at life

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SceetoSceetoForum VeteranOP
Aug 8, 2011, 07:14 PM

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/miami-dolphins-rookie-jimmy-wilson-once-accused-of-1712830.html

He definitely has had his issues, but I think this is something positive which should get us all a bit excited because I think he's going to turn out to be a surprise and a steal. From what I've heard, he's been looking real good in camp and is making a bunch of INTs. You all think we could use some of that mojo???

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2011, 07:49 PM

Well Deej said he thinks he could be our Bob Sanders, so we shall see, that would be awesome if he were.

Side note, did read Clyde Gates dad pulled 18 yrs for murder.

Who said Irish doesn't take enough chances...:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Gates

VendigoVendigoSupporter
Aug 8, 2011, 07:51 PM

Murder's dandy. Now, sons of hookers, we can't abide. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Murder good, hookers un-American. Lock and load.

We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only reason for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely. All art is quite useless.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2011, 09:16 PM

Irish still is criticized for the Dez Bryant stuff, he has brought in:

-Bess who spent a yr in jail
-Wilson who spent 2 yrs
-Gates who had a troubled background as well
-Brandon Marshall whose problems were well documented
-Tony McDaniel who broke a classmates jaw at UT
-Kept Merling, a fact that surprised even Phillip who was happy to still have a job

Think he asked them tough questions as well?

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 8, 2011, 09:34 PM

"Vendigo wrote:

Murder's dandy. Now, sons of hookers, we can't abide. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Murder good, hookers un-American. Lock and load.

Acquitted- Law To free or clear from a charge or accusation.

In other words, he wasn't just found "not guilty" due to insufficient evidence. He was found INNOCENT due to the fact that the evidence proved he was not the murderer. ;)

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 8, 2011, 09:35 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Irish still is criticized for the Dez Bryant stuff, he has brought in:

-Bess who spent a yr in jail
-Wilson who spent 2 yrs
-Gates who had a troubled background as well
-Brandon Marshall whose problems were well documented
-Tony McDaniel who broke a classmates jaw at UT
-Kept Merling, a fact that surprised even Phillip who was happy to still have a job

Think he asked them tough questions as well?

I don't think people understand the reasoning behind Ireland's "Is your mom a hooker?" question.

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneForum Veteran
Aug 8, 2011, 09:37 PM

I didn't even know Bess spent a year in jail.

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 8, 2011, 09:39 PM

"BlameItOnTheHenne wrote:

I didn't even know Bess spent a year in jail.

I never knew that either.

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 8, 2011, 09:41 PM

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

PandarillaPandarillaForum Veteran
Aug 8, 2011, 10:27 PM

I could run a calendar based on every time I see these Jimmy Wilson 2nd chance at life articles...Ad Nauseum.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2011, 10:41 PM

"BlameItOnTheHenne wrote:

I didn't even know Bess spent a year in jail.

Oh yes, there is more to Mr Bess then meets the eye.

Deej may be off base about Wilson though, Sanders was 206 or so, Wilson is 186, and not really developed, he is no Y Bell.

kryptokryptoNew Member
Aug 8, 2011, 10:57 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Irish still is criticized for the Dez Bryant stuff, he has brought in:

-Bess who spent a yr in jail
-Wilson who spent 2 yrs
-Gates who had a troubled background as well
-Brandon Marshall whose problems were well documented
-Tony McDaniel who broke a classmates jaw at UT
-Kept Merling, a fact that surprised even Phillip who was happy to still have a job

Think he asked them tough questions as well?

And Ricky gets crucified because???

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2011, 11:00 PM

"krypto wrote:

And Ricky gets crucified because???

Good question, ever wonder why people who don't like Wannstadt recommend him for a medal for getting him fired?

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Aug 8, 2011, 11:20 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Well Deej said he thinks he could be our Bob Sanders, so we shall see, that would be awesome if he were.

Side note, did read Clyde Gates dad pulled 18 yrs for murder.

Who said Irish doesn't take enough chances...:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Gates

I would not make that comparison until I see him play in our uni on a pro field against pro players, I did say that from the reports that ive been hearing that it sounds like he has some Bob Sanders in him..

Bob Sanders was a guy that I wanted to go after this offseason, Top 5 favorite player for me..

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2011, 11:23 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

I would not make that comparison until I see him play in our uni on a pro field against pro players, I did say that from the reports that ive been hearing that it sounds like he has some Bob Sanders in him..

Bob Sanders was a guy that I wanted to go after this offseason, Top 5 favorite player for me..

Deej, hmm..OT but I think Henne finally got himself into good conditioning.

As for Wilson as Bob Sanders, we will now soon enough, Sanders made a fact impact with the Colts, like 27 tackles in his first couple of games, and it is good to see you go out on a limb a bit.

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 9, 2011, 12:32 AM

If Wilson can be 75% of what Sanders was, sans the injuries, I'll be happy.

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

ANandres2882New Member
Aug 9, 2011, 12:59 AM

"MarinePhinFan wrote:

Acquitted- Law To free or clear from a charge or accusation.

In other words, he wasn't just found "not guilty" due to insufficient evidence. He was found INNOCENT due to the fact that the evidence proved he was not the murderer. ;)

Acquitted means the same thing as "not guilty." There is no difference.

Someone check my math. It's apparently not very good.

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 9, 2011, 12:59 AM

"andres2882 wrote:

Acquitted means the same thing as "not guilty." There is no difference.

Wrong.

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

ANandres2882New Member
Aug 9, 2011, 01:08 AM

"MarinePhinFan wrote:

Wrong.

Ok. Your source? There is a difference between a hung jury and an acquittal. Hung jury means not everyone voted guilty or not guilty. If everyone votes not guilty, that's an acquittal. There are only two options -- not guilty and guilty.

Someone check my math. It's apparently not very good.

MarinePhinFanMarinePhinFanNew Member
Aug 9, 2011, 01:13 AM

"andres2882 wrote:

Ok. Your source? There is a difference between a hung jury and an acquittal. Hung jury means not everyone voted guilty or not guilty. If everyone votes not guilty, that's an acquittal. There are only two options -- not guilty and guilty.


Wrong. On everything. The only source I need is my brain.

The first trial had a hung jury. He faced trial again and was acquitted. Guilty, not guilty and innocent are all different.

I get sick of lazy people.

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People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them. ----George Bernard Shaw

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Aug 9, 2011, 01:55 AM

"padre31 wrote:

Deej, hmm..OT but I think Henne finally got himself into good conditioning.

As for Wilson as Bob Sanders, we will now soon enough, Sanders made a fact impact with the Colts, like 27 tackles in his first couple of games, and it is good to see you go out on a limb a bit.

lol..are you fu^%in with me man?, I feel I go out on limbs all the time when it comes to this team and players..

Here I'll give you a few this offseason I'am on the record for.

How bout this one SirPodster..after rewind, I'am on the record about our teams ascension in this 4th year, FU%$ OPTIMISM... our team is young and loaded with talent..SH$$, don't you know I'am on the board of the ''goody goody rah rah club...The Miami Dolphins..The most underrated team in football...

We'll get rid of both Ricky, Ronnie, and Cobbs..

Chad Henne deserved to be the starter again based on variables that were going against him, and how he performed before the benching..hmmm.

We'll adddress certain weaknesses that were identified, thru the draft and free agency...Rebuilt running back unit..Speed receiver..Scatback/returner...H-back..interior line upgrades, inside linebacker.

Crowder needs to be cut..

Carey is a liability out there.

Ckap and Dalton were in my top 5 when a lotta folks were dissing them and calling them 4 to 5th round picks...

Mallett is gonna drop.

We would take offensive players with our first 4 picks..

Sparano and this staff deserve this 4th year without the BS criticism..They've have equaled or done a better job than any staff in history in terms of wins and losses after taking over the 1st pick, 3 years later..

Jimmy wilson= Bob Sanders...not yet man, not until I see him under the lights..

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran
Aug 9, 2011, 02:51 AM

"MarinePhinFan wrote:

Wrong. On everything. The only source I need is my brain.

The first trial had a hung jury. He faced trial again and was acquitted. Guilty, not guilty and innocent are all different.

I get sick of lazy people.

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:lol:

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MrCleanMrCleanSupporter
Aug 9, 2011, 04:06 AM

"padre31 wrote:

Well Deej said he thinks he could be our Bob Sanders, so we shall see, that would be awesome if he were.

Side note, did read Clyde Gates dad pulled 18 yrs for murder.

Who said Irish doesn't take enough chances...:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Gates

Well I don't see the Sanders comparison, but let's hope he is nowhere near as injury prone as Sanders.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleanSupporter
Aug 9, 2011, 04:15 AM

"MarinePhinFan wrote:

Wrong. On everything. The only source I need is my brain.

The first trial had a hung jury. He faced trial again and was acquitted. Guilty, not guilty and innocent are all different.

I get sick of lazy people.

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Juries are asked to return a verdict of guilty or not guilty. Simple as that. If they return a verdict of not guilty, that results in an acquittal. The judge does not give the jury 3 options, such as innocent, not guilty or guilty.

Unable to post bond, he waited in jail more than a year for his trial. It ended in a hung jury, with the vote 11-1 to acquit. Prosecutors opted to try the case again, sending Wilson back to jail for another nine months. This time he was acquitted, gaining his release July 9, 2009.

ac·quit·tal/əˈkwitl/
Noun: A judgment that a person is not guilty of the crime with which the person has been charged: "the trial resulted in an acquittal"

You didn't have to treat that new dude Andres so shabbily, especially when he was not wrong.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

phinnheddphinnheddForum Veteran
Aug 9, 2011, 04:58 AM

"padre31 wrote:

Irish still is criticized for the Dez Bryant stuff, he has brought in:

-Bess who spent a yr in jail
-Wilson who spent 2 yrs
-Gates who had a troubled background as well
-Brandon Marshall whose problems were well documented
-Tony McDaniel who broke a classmates jaw at UT
-Kept Merling, a fact that surprised even Phillip who was happy to still have a job

Think he asked them tough questions as well?

Actually Gates spent a lot of time STAYING OUT OF TROUBLE. know your **** homie.