Miami Dolphins fans get relief from sun -- but coach likes the heat

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Finatic8480Finatic8480New MemberOP
Oct 23, 2010, 12:02 AM

In trying to fill seats at Sun Life Stadium, Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross appears to have retired a winning tradition: the brutally hot home game that starts at 1 p.m.
After taking over the team in 2008, the billionaire real estate developer set out remaking Dolphin games into more accessible entertainment -- adding pop stars as partners, ordering up a Jimmy Buffett fight song, and even clearing out skyboxes to make way for the NFL's first stadium nightclub.

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Oct 23, 2010, 12:31 AM

We should really try to wear white at home every game we can and REAALLLLY screw em.

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MuckMuckretired_admin
Oct 23, 2010, 08:12 AM

``If I was playing, I wouldn't have been glad,'' Mark Duper said. ``But as a Dolphin fan now, I like it. It does get hot.

There you have it.

Difficult balance for Ross. He wants/needs competitive edges, but he also needs butts in the seats.

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The G ManThe G Manforum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 08:27 AM

Her 15-year-old son, Connor, had a different take on suffering and football: ``I'd rather be in misery and see us win, than be in the shade and watch us lose.''

Kinda says it all.

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FIfinsincebirthforum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 08:31 AM

No it doesnt. Not everyone has the durability of a 15 year old kid and can sit through those games.

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Oct 23, 2010, 09:07 AM

There have been literally dozens of threads about Ross's desire to eliminate the 1:00 games in September. However, this stat says it all:

"Since 1990, the Dolphins have won 72 percent of their games when the kickoff temperature hit at least 82 degrees. Anything cooler, the win percentage drops to 57 percent."

So, to all those who say it doesn't matter, you're just wrong.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Oct 23, 2010, 09:10 AM

"Muck wrote:

There you have it.

Difficult balance for Ross. He wants/needs competitive edges, but he also needs butts in the seats.

I disagree that it is a "difficult balance". You give us a winner, you'll get "butts in the seats". Even if you give us a mediocre team, we still sell out the stadium.

You think Green Bay's ownership lobbies the NFL for less December games cause they're afraid their fans might get cold?????

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

JDelenneJDelennesubscriber
Oct 23, 2010, 10:36 AM

I rather go watch our football team in the heat, in the rain, in what ever weather it may be than have a roof. We live in Florida, we deal with this weather 365 days a year, so you're saying that people cant deal with it for 3 hours?

I agree with this statement 100%

Her 15-year-old son, Connor, had a different take on suffering and football: ``I'd rather be in misery and see us win, than be in the shade and watch us lose.''

RickyBobbyRickyBobbyNew Member
Oct 23, 2010, 11:06 AM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

There have been literally dozens of threads about Ross's desire to eliminate the 1:00 games in September. However, this stat says it all:

"Since 1990, the Dolphins have won 72 percent of their games when the kickoff temperature hit at least 82 degrees. Anything cooler, the win percentage drops to 57 percent."

So, to all those who say it doesn't matter, you're just wrong.

tell that to the players and see what they think about it , Im sure they will say that shouldnt detirmine a win wither way

adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 11:11 AM

just sad that people cant deal with "sitting" in the heat for three hours to root for a team that "plays" in the heat for three hours



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rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 11:20 AM

"Muck wrote:

There you have it.

Difficult balance for Ross. He wants/needs competitive edges, but he also needs butts in the seats.

I think he's undervalued the fact that winning puts butts in the seats as well. IMO a wiser strategy would be to keep the games at 1:00 to rebuild that winning tradition and then figure out how to put a roof over the fans. Whether the fans can be shaded or not though will have less of an impact on attendance than winning would.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 11:26 AM

Well, for me the concern is not the heat it is the tone it sets for the Organization, Ross has said a Dolphins Team in the Super Bowl is his goal, does moving the games out of the heat help to reach that goal?

We started out 2-0 on the road , we lost two evening games and fell to 2-2, won another road game, now to my mind Miami has their first true "Home Game" of 2010 this Sunday.

So to me, let's see how it plays out on the Field and then decide.

OzzyOzzyluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 12:19 PM

The local fanbase lives here in the South Florida heat every single day. Although it may get really hot inside the stadium, we should be used to it and imo embrace it!

I freaking loved 1 pm games! Loved them! Not only for me, but I loved watching the opponents come off the field and head right towards the cooling fans...huffing and puffing.

If you can run the ball well, you can wear them out by the 3rd quarter...

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SOSouthbeachNew Member
Oct 23, 2010, 12:30 PM

Here's a little food for thought. I the past, we were not as big or physical as visiting teams. Now, is a different story.

Think Soliai, Long, Carey, Langford, etc play better in the heat? I don't.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 12:46 PM

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

There have been literally dozens of threads about Ross's desire to eliminate the 1:00 games in September. However, this stat says it all:

"Since 1990, the Dolphins have won 72 percent of their games when the kickoff temperature hit at least 82 degrees. Anything cooler, the win percentage drops to 57 percent."

So, to all those who say it doesn't matter, you're just wrong.

And you don't think that the games in September at home, whether 1pm, 4pm, or 8pm have a KO temperature of 82 degrees?

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Phinatic19Phinatic19New Member
Oct 23, 2010, 12:54 PM

People complaining about the heat need to man up. :chuckle:

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 01:01 PM

I just have no patience for fans who would like to see us lose a competitive advantage so they can be "comfy" during the games. It's football, not tennis. Grow a set. Or try watching a game in Northern New York during December. You would be thankful for the sun no matter how hot it is.

The G ManThe G Manforum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 01:07 PM

"finsincebirth wrote:

No it doesnt. Not everyone has the durability of a 15 year old kid and can sit through those games.

Then stay at home and watch it on TV (and crank up the AC). :tongue2:

J/K bro. I hear what you're sayin. :knucks:

Man, those boys from Pittsburgh are gonna be awful hot tomorrow in them black uni's. :yes:

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StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 01:08 PM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I just have no patience for fans who would like to see us lose a competitive advantage so they can be "comfy" during the games. It's football, not tennis. Grow a set. Or try watching a game in Northern New York during December. You would be thankful for the sun no matter how hot it is.

It's a hell of a lot easier to get/stay warm than it is to get/stay cool.

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finyank13finyank13New Member
Oct 23, 2010, 01:53 PM

"Stitches wrote:

It's a hell of a lot easier to get/stay warm than it is to get/stay cool.


I think that to sometimes Stitch, and I get you saying that living down there...... however if you take away the house aspect, there is no remedy in being in 20 degree weather with 20-40 mph winds, which is pretty much the norm from mid-Dec until mid March.....as much as I HATE summers here as they are in the 90's and 90% plus humidity, I will take that all day rather than the dead of winter......You can always go in a pool to cool off.....there is just no going outside (unless you have a kid who wants to play in the snow :lol:) when it is that cold, its unforgiving...

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OzzyOzzyluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 02:14 PM

"Stitches wrote:

It's a hell of a lot easier to get/stay warm than it is to get/stay cool.

Which is why we should embrace the deadly heat 1pm games in September.

BUT the advantage can go both ways. When you play in, practice in, and live in the same element, it is almost impossible to get used to the opposite.

When you're out on the field, you cannot bring your jacket with you or run around out there in shorts and a wife beater....

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OzzyOzzyluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 02:16 PM

"finyank13 wrote:

I think that to sometimes Stitch, and I get you saying that living down there...... however if you take away the house aspect, there is no remedy in being in 20 degree weather with 20-40 mph winds, which is pretty much the norm from mid-Dec until mid March.....as much as I HATE summers here as they are in the 90's and 90% plus humidity, I will take that all day rather than the dead of winter......You can always go in a pool to cool off.....there is just no going outside (unless you have a kid who wants to play in the snow :lol:) when it is that cold, its unforgiving...

And lets not forget that the kid will be dressed down in thermals, and duck down jackets. On the field all they get is thermals...

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MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Oct 23, 2010, 02:27 PM

"Stitches wrote:

It's a hell of a lot easier to get/stay warm than it is to get/stay cool.

Spoken from someone who lives in a warm climate. In my experience, having lived in both hot and cold climates, it's 6 in one half dozen in the other.

It's called get a cold beer, drop some ice in your underpants, and quit yer bitchin.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 02:34 PM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

Spoken from someone who lives in a warm climate. In my experience, having lived in both hot and cold climates, it's 6 in one half dozen in the other.

It's called get a cold beer, drop some ice in your underpants, and quit yer bitchin.

Dude, I lived in Ohio from age 3 to 23. I'm speaking from experience of living in both climates. I'd take any sort of freezing weather over 90+ degree weather plus 90% humidity any day. It goes without saying I'd take 70/80 degree weather over either extreme as well.

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OzzyOzzyluxury_box
Oct 23, 2010, 02:52 PM

"Stitches wrote:

Dude, I lived in Ohio from age 3 to 23. I'm speaking from experience of living in both climates. I'd take any sort of freezing weather over 90+ degree weather plus 90% humidity any day. It goes without saying I'd take 70/80 degree weather over either extreme as well.

Some people take to climates differently I guess.

I lived in Alaska for 3 years, and I'll take temps in the 80's (which is the average temp for the hottest month) with 100 percent humidity over freezing cold, 40 degrees, 50, 60 or 70....

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