Miami Dolphins evaluate cornerbacks...

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  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/1006645.html

    He's the guy I'd want most. I have him at 2a in my mock. Do you guys there's any chance he could fall that far? I like D. Butler, but I do not think there's a chance that he will sniff the 2nd. rd.
    I like him as another possible option at 2a. Hopefully.•
     
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  2. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    i like Butler a lot. I wouldn't mind using our 1st on him, but i would wet my pants if we got him with our 2nd.
     
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  3. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    i liked Butler a lot ... and initially he was my preferred CB (being a UCONN alum), but after further review, he is a little light according to the Parcell's blueprint ... and not sure he makes up for it with his playmaking.
     
  4. djphinfan

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    Kipers got a good eye with corners, it just reaffirms my position on taking a linebacker with our first pick and a corner with our 2nd.

    Barwin and butler or either smith would be sweet
     
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  5. RickyNeverInhaled

    RickyNeverInhaled Well-Known Member

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    i thought the parcells blueprint was mainly for lineman. what type of CB does Parcells usually go for?
     
  6. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Isnt he 5'11? he's not that small.
     
  7. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    didnt byrd run like a 4.7 at his pro day?

    btw, FF he said he was light, not small. i think hes like 5'11 180 pounds......
     
  8. Sceeto

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    I hear ya' though I want Ayers or English with our first and Smith with our 2a, hopefully. ;)
     
  9. rdhstlr23

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    I don't think we go CB or WR at #25.

    I think we take DL or LB. It's a Parcells trait to improve the the lines, and I don't see us making a move on the OL after getting Berger, Grove and Carey in FA.

    Connor Barwin, Larry English, Robert Ayers, or someone along those lines.

    And if Knowshon Moreno drops, something tells me sweep him up.
     
  10. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I don't like smith. Poor tackler imo. I don't see how we could pass on vontae davis if he was available
     
  11. phineas64

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    His family ties could hurt him with BP. Vernon Davis has a rep (deserved or not) as a somewhat lazy underachiever, not really what you expect from a BP guy. And Vontae's rep is not the best. Athletically he's all we could ask for from a DB though.
     
  12. Lab3003

    Lab3003 Golden era

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    I think its more likely that Miami improves its pass rush than finds a 2nd CB opposite Will Allen. Whichever pass rusher that will be available @ 25 will be a better value (Vs) whichever CB that will be available. I do believe the team will draft two CB's this year, given their decision to play Cover-4 more often next season.
     
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  13. PHINANALYST

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    as Boomer has shown, he prefers 5'10-5'11 and ~ 195 ... so that is why Butler is a little light, but the 'right' height ...
     
  14. Disgustipate

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    I'm fairly certain that Boomer's analysis went out of its way to note that there was a wide range of builds that Parcells had playing for him, from Ray Mickens to Marcus Coleman.
     
  15. PHINANALYST

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    you are correct, from all that has been said and written, i believe that he goes with his 'blueprint' until someone blows him away that is on the outside. to confirm this, just look at our roster right now ... you won't find too many exceptions to his 'blueprint'. his tipping point usually seems to be with bigger vice smaller.

    did Butler blow him away ... don't know that. i certainly won't mind the pick, i'm just pointing out what i see in his pattern of picks and players.
     
  16. Disgustipate

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    Yeah, but that "Blueprint" is essentially the average height and build of a cornerback. It's hard to suggest he prefers it because there's so many of them on the roster, because there are so many 5'11" 190ish pound corners out there.
     
  17. Onehondo

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    From Scout.com

    Darius Butler, Connecticut 5-10, 183
    Pre-Combine Position Rank: 6
    Post-Combine Skinny: Many thought he'd come to the Combine and up his stock big time with a blazing 40 and tremendous athleticism. It didn't happen. His 4.45 was fine, but there were rumblings that he was going to tear off a 4.3. The 43" vertical leap was amazing and the 11'2" broad jump was special, but he wasn't as smooth as expected when he ran.
    Positives: Did a little of everything well … Fast. Can’t be beaten deep without a heck of a move … Great hands. Saw some time at receiver.
    Negatives: Not physical. Will try to hit, but can’t do it … Needs to be on a speed receiver; not a big, strong one … Only a corner who’ll struggle to get the jam.

    Jairus Byrd, Oregon 5-11, 207
    Pre-Combine Position Rank: 9
    Post-Combine Skinny: He measured in big and strong-looking, but he wasn't able to work out and run. If he can run a 4.5 in private workouts, he'll make himself a ton of dough.
    Positives: Big-time producer … Solid tackler. Not a prima donna in any way … Nice, fluid athlete with good size.
    Negatives: Elite speed is lacking … Even with his size, he’s not tough enough to play safety … Can get sloppy in his technique.
     

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