http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/04/team-by-team-cap-space-as-of-september-3/ Dolphins: $4.0 million. Where has all the cap gone?
i am not a capologist but we have made most of our moves and still have 4 million to play with. i hear next year it will be 40 million.
Wow, that's scary. For as little talent as we actually have on this roster, we sure are paying it well. Damn. When you consider who we have on the roster, its rather discouraging to see how little cap space we have. Not good.
"Salary cap and floor (article 12 section 8 & 9): For the league years 2011 and 2012, there is a hard salary cap but no per-team salary floor. Instead, league-wide cash spending must be 99% of the total cap. Then, for the periods 2013-2016 and 2017-2020, the league-wide cash spending commitment drops to 95%, but a per-team cash commitment is put into place of 89%." http://www.fieldgulls.com/2011/9/5/2395968/the-nfl-cba-collective-bargaining-agreement-refresher-course
Apparently. Does Jeff Ireland suddenly improve as a GM when the Dolphins are 40-50 million under the cap? Do you have any idea what loopholes were used to push cap forward next year that may take up space this year?
There was an article floating around on here the other day about Miami's salary cap breakdown. Jake Long's salary is 12% of the team's total cap money for 2012 - if the article is correct anyway. There was also something like $14M tied up in dead money for players that are no longer here that comes off the books next year. Most of the key players signed, drafted, or acquired by the team since 2008, but prior to the new CBA being signed, are also in the final year or final two years of their contracts, so the amounts they're making are increased as they've played more years. Even if the numbers from that article aren't correct, it makes sense to me that Miami's somewhat up against the cap limit this year just based on some of the players under contract, and where they are in those contracts (i.e. Jake Long's last year), and the dead money tied up with former players. Other than players drafted in 2011 and 2012, I don't think there are many, if any, players who have contracts going further than 2014 or 2015, so that's got to factor into the cap amount for next season. There's certainly some big signings/tags Miami would have to make next year: Jake Long (I'd think a franchise tag is in play here), Randy Starks, Brian Hartline, Sean Smith, Reggie Bush, and Anthony Fasano to name a few, are all free agents at season's end. Some big names there.
He sure got bang for his buck these last 3 years, when he built this current salary base. of course..next year, he gets to start all over again, so in 3 more years, we will be capped out again, with little talent to show for it. Some of you guys are easy.
You mentioned this the other other day. I think the smart thing to do would be to extend Long, Smith, Fasano and Starks and let the others walk. We will still have a good amount of money left over.
i'm with ya buddy, trust me. i never implied otherwise but ireland has made almost all of his moves (i say that because we are in week 1 and he is still scrambling for a temporary fix at wr) and we still have 4 mil to play with and if what i read about next year's cap numbers are true, we have nothing to worry about because we will have 40 mil plus whatever is left of our 4 mil. now i don't claim to know why we only have 4 mil left over. i would assume that we took hits on people that we traded that were still under contract, plus maybe the way some contracts were written we took a big hit on this year. i know the talent we have and the cap money left for the year doesn't seem to justify the numbers for this year, but i am sure there is plenty of good reasons that i don't care to research and/or don't understand. 4 mil doesn't sound like a lot for this year but the off season is over with, all draft picks and free agents were signed, new contracts were made to deserving players like Wake, and we can still sign a big contract to a big name wr if one ever becomes available as long as the cap hit is no more than 4 mil for this year. we can still offer a free agent a contract written in such a way for 100 million for however many years as long as the signing bonus, gaurenteed money, contract and incentive money doesn"t exceed what we have left for this year. on the ridiculous fake 100 million contract i threw out as an example, the contract would have to be written in such a way where 4 mil would go toward this year and the other 96 mil would be spread out over the remaining years. which is probably why we are where we are because of contracts written years ago with no talent to show for it.
I believe we have 14 Million in Dead Cap this year. Of that 14 Million, 5.5 is Brandon Marshall. To put that into context, the Dolphins current highest paid WR is Brian Hartline, who is scheduled to make 1.3 Million this year. In case you wanna know why our WR situation sucks so hard.
I'm not sure having $130M+ already committed to not only 2013, but 2014 as well is a desirable position.
It pretty much depends on whom you committed the money to. If you have a strong, young nucleus (which I believe the Eagles do), then having 20 million to play around is actually quite a lot. If we extend Long and Bush, that 40 million number for next season will drop quite significantly without having added any talent at all.
Would have thought we'd be closer to $6m with the Murtha/Culver moves. Doesn't really matter this year anyway. Supposedly, it's not going to cost us anything cap wise to extend Long this year (if we do).
Please, by all means let me know the teams that have had success in this league by paying FAs a lot of guaranteed money over future years. The problem is that you need guys like Nnamdi Asomugha, Jason Peters, and Michael Vick to play at an all-pro level in order for that team to be successful. They certainly didn't play to their salaries last season, and the Eagles were a .500 team because of it.
Right, but we aren't talking about guys needing to be "strong". We are talking about guys that are paid to play at a level that exceeds just strong.
What part of sucking for a high draft position, a stockpile of draft picks and a huge amount of cap room to sign free agents next year don't the Ireland haters understand? Seems the quickest road to respectability. Of course, management can't say that we're going into the season with what we have because of this plan, and the young guys will lose a lot of games, but still get a year of experience and coaching. I don't see a downside.
Jason Peters was arguably the best LT in the league last year and Vick missed a few games due to injury. I haven't seen the advanced stats on Asomugha, but I know the Eagles defense did let down last year in the first half.
My point is, if you paying someone $15M+ for a season, they cannot miss a few games due to injury. Asomugha has to play like the second best CB in the league. Jason Peters has to play like one of the best LTs in the league. If these guys just play very good, but not elite, the team is doomed.
they are like 16 million over next year though, dont know how you could spend the money now other than resigning some guys
Right?! Why would anyone rather be 8-8 with $16 million over the cap next year then 6-10 with $40 million under the cap next year?
I'm not sure if this is the route they will go but they could release Vick if Foles is the real deal. The money isn't guaranteed after 2012 and it would free up 16.9 million.
Then why oh why didn't we do that last year when there was an actual prize to be had with the #1 pick? Also, why should Ireland get to reap the rewards of all those picks and cap room when he was the guy who got us into this mess to begin with?
I take the glass half full on this one. The Dolphins have up to $50 million in cap space in 2013 and they also have 5 draft picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds. That's the kind of ammunition that could prove really enticing and useful IF there is actually a GM change. I don't know which GM candidate out there would be considered like the Jim Harbaugh of GM candidates but having that kind of ammo may prevent whoever that guy may be from looking at us and just saying "No thanks". Whether this hypothetical candidate looks at the presence of Joe Philbin and Ryan Tannehill as millstones probably depends on how they do this year.
50 million sounds nice and dandy, but we currently don't have a starting LT, starting RB, starting TE, starting WR, starting CB and starting DT for 2013.
