Merged:Pennington Released/ Dolphins inquire

Pennington's a very smart quarterback. I question how effective Ginn could be as a legit deep threat through

 

Why am I not surprised? If Quincy Carter was talked about this should have been a lock...

 

wow. i've been trumpeting that i don't see us bringing in pennington because who would be the odd man out? Certainly not Henne, i doubt McCown since this regime just brought him here, and just paid him a fat contract & signing bonus. Didn't think it would be Beck since we just drafted him last year (still under contract), and hasn't really had a chance.

i don't see us carrying four active QBs on the roster either. THEN there's the question of if we're going to be the highest bidder (remember Chad would be free to sign with anyone). i don't see us being the highest bidder.... unless Chad prefers to play for parcells and takes a lower salary to play here.

too many things against this happening IMO. but if they do sign him and cut one of the other 3 QBs, i'd be grossly mistaken. i'll eat my words if that happens, but i just don't see it.

 

I have no problems bringing in Pennington. Especially since he'll be motivated to beat down the Jets in week 1.

 

Chad could have more success in Chicago or Minnesota than here. He'll get beat up pretty good in Miami

 

Doesnt seem like there is a whole lot of hard facts though does there? Does this guy have a source or is he speculating?

 

That is a legitimate concern, that’s what crossed my mind right away.

I hate how Parcells goes with the vet qbs. He told Hyded (as per Boomer) that he is on a 3 year plan. What good will starting Pennington over Beck and/or Henne have on that 3 year plan. Let them develope for crying out loud.

My guess is, and I hope I'm worng, that they feel Beck isn't their guy, and they will play Pennington until Henne develops into a starter. I'm really pulling of Beck, and just hope that he gets his opportunity to show his stuff.

 

I look for McCown to be the odd guy out. I wouldnt put much solice in the fact the current regime brought in McCown because they figured to bring in a vet and draft a QB anyway with the understanding the vet would be either gone, or on the bench by year 2.

I forget what we gave McCown but i doubt it was so much that the F.O. wouldnt release him and just eat the costs in order to get a more productive Pennington. I think it would cost more to release Beck than McCown anyways... I think

 

the only problem with him is his arm Strength

 

good point. why would Chad even want to come here if he knows he can get s more long term role in Chicago or Minny.


What I'm waiting for, is for the Jets to trade Favre to the Vikikngs.

 

dolphins signed McCown for two years for $6M.... including $2.5M in guarantees

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFl&id=2090

i don't think they'd release a guy they just paid that to who never played a snap for a team. that would just be a boneheaded move and is not reflective of how parcells has ever acted before.

not just roster spots, but $$. you'd be paying 4 QBs active-QB money. these guys aren't earning "vet min", keep in mind.

 

Not going to happen. It hasn't been widely reported, but there's a poison pill in the trade that costs the Jets something like three additional firsts if they trade Favre to a NFC North team.

 

I don't think the Dolphins saw any way Favre was going to the Jets when they made that move.

 

bringing in pennington isn't gonna help the fact that our recievers as of late couldn't catch a ball if they shoved their hands down their pants..the qb's we have may look a bit better if we can get the wr to hang on to the ones they should catch.

 

Pennington has a career QB rating of 89...65% completion percentage....only real question is whether he can stay healthy.

 

Having the ball hit the WRs in stride will make it a little easier.

 

Just an inquiry as of now. We'll see if it gets any bigger than an inquiry. I wouldn't mind Chad here, I'm just worried that we won't be able to use Ginn effectively this year. The media is all over Beck, calling him "Mr. Checkdown". You wonder what the hell are they gonna say when they see this guy step on the field in a Dolphins uniform. There's a reason his completion percentage is at 65%.

 

I didnt know it was that much... Maybe Beck is the odd guy out then.

S**t, he may not even come here, may not even want to come here... The again, we did inquire about him for a reason and with a plan in place

 

Which is why I question the source on this one. Who inquired? And what was discussed?

 

If we sign Pennington and waive McCown, what kind of cap hit are we looking at? This kinda stuff has always flown way over my head.

 

I think the cap hit is for every cent of his garuanteed money

 

Cam held Beck out as long as he possibly could. I don't think that's a fair statement to make.

 

Doesnt Pennington's agent, Tom Condon, represent like half of our roster and FO?

 

so 2.5M. But is that pro-rated over the term of the contract, or is it bulk and all at once.

I know it is diferrent, but in the NHL they divvy it up over two times the time remaining on the contract. Just seeing how the do it in the NFL.

Thanks for the answer by the way!!

 

Lemme tell you something. As soon as he throws his first TD, you'll feel a lot better. It took me all of one home run to get used to Jim Edmonds in a Cub uniform.

 

I too think McCown is the odd man out. Just when Pennington is about to become avalable Tony is talking about only two QBs playing in Saturdays game. Why is that?

 

That still looks weird to me. I never thought Jim would leave the Cards.

 

I think they could pay the 2.5 mil however they want as long as it is paid in full by the end of the contract. In full, or over the term of the contract, but they do have to pay him all the garuanteed money that is stated in his contract.

 

Its too bad one of the three qb's we have didn't emerge in TC, then this wouldn't even be an issue. If we do bring in Pennington my expecations will be low, but then again its not like he would be taking a spot of someone who looks to be much better at this point in time.

End of the day there is still a big ? at our QB position going into the start of this season, and the one positive in all this is Henne has played good enough to show optimism to fix that question mark in the near future. If pennington, mccown or beck are the short term answers and Henne is the eventual successor to be a legitamate answer, i'm fine with Pennington comming in, should that happen.

Its not the answer i'm looking for or excited about, but when there are not a lot of good options available, one more option is a good thing.

 

I think McCown is out as well. The guy hasn't been that impressive in camp and has only regressed, opposed to Beck, who has gotten better as days go by. I still don't see Henne starting his rookie year unless there's an injury. My money is on McCown being out if Pennington was brought in.

 

We'll see Texas, I don't believe Tuna is afraid of looking bad if he cut McCown.

 

The problem is, he held Beck out of practice as well until a week or two before he threw him in there. Cam kept Beck on the scout team, so this genius had Lemon taking the primary snaps and no backup qb taking any offensive snaps.

And I also disagree with your statement, he didn't hold Beck out as long as possible. lemon wasn't hurt.