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Merged:Is Chad Henne's job in trouble?

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  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    Is Chad Henne's job in trouble?
    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/19546/is-chad-hennes-job-in-trouble


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  2. Darrelle Revis

    Darrelle Revis I BELIEVE!

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    At this point, he's inconsistent. He shows flashes of a very good QB. However, maturity and time is something that will get him over those problems.
     
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  3. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    I think Henne will have a decent career but I would prefer that he became our backup. I think Henne has the same problem that Cutler (of the Bears) has. He stares down his wide receiver and takes too long to deliver it resulting in a lot of pickoffs and bat down passes.

    I would still play Henne to see what he has, but if he contues struggling then maybe you see what Thigpen can do. I would hate having to draft another QB but I think we may have to next year. Henne is better then Feeley, Beck, White,,,who else am I missing??? BUT I still am not convinced he is our future QB.
     
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  4. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    Sounds like another QB I know whose name rhymes with Manchez.
     
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  5. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    he's shown enough that he has to get three years of starting time. if he still has the inconsistencies and flaws next year we can start discussing benching him but for now his progress has been great. still inconsistent but that should improve
     
  6. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    Damn you know it's bad when Jets fans are trying to make us feel okay about our team :lol:
     
  7. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Which is ironic because he isnt a man at all....
     
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  8. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    He makes a good post and you just start smack talk?
     
  9. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    The first two picks Henne threw completely changed the game. I really think if he doesn't throw them, we score 7 or 14 points and probably have a 20-6 halftime lead. Maybe the 2nd half disaster would never have occured because of this??? The third pick wasn't Henne's fault as Marshall stopped his route. I just would like to see him making smarter throws....he threw some nice passes to Bess, but he also short hopped a pass to a wide open receiver, and then threw some way too hard and off the mark. Hopefully he will come out with a little chip on his shoulder against the Packers and play better.
     
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  10. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Is Henne's job in jeopardy. In a word: No!
     
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  11. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Both times he threw the first two I thought that passing was a bad call. Both times 1st and 10 near redzone, second time at the 30 with under 3 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. The first one, the majority of the previous calls leading up to that 1st down were passes. Henne is obviously still maturing. You would think that Henning understands this and would take some pressure off him, and not expect him to complete 10 straight passes without making a mistake.
     
  12. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    According to Sparano today, No!
     
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  13. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    That doesn't make sense to me.

    They ran back the opening kick at halftime. Then the score would have 20-14. I doubt, we would have a different gameplan at 20-14 then we would have at 7-13. We march the ball down the field, drive stalls we punt. We would have punted there regardless if the score was 20-14. Blocked and returned for a go ahead TD.

    This was special teams fault all the way.
     
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  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    no doubt he played poorly with those picks. it wont be the last game like that either. the key is that those types of games become fewer and fewer as he grows and gets smarter. he's getting better, you can see it in how he's throwing. we just need patience. cant have the miami media start bashing him and creating controversy
     
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  15. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Jets on Jets crime?
     
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  16. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Donald Qranchez!
     
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  17. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Mark sanchez has been outplaying Henne since week 15 of last year, including 3 playoff games. He is ahead of Henne right now
     
  18. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Unless we have the option of starting Sanchez, I'm not sure how he is relevant to this discussion.
     
  19. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    Here is what I mean. Lets say Henne doesn't throw those two picks. We probably would have scored 10 to 14 more points? We would have had a nice cushion at halftime, instead of being up by one.

    I taped the game and watched the game a couple more times. If you watched the first half, WE stopped ourselves. That's why I got so mad when we were moving the ball, and then on a critical third down we went to the Wildcat and stopped ourselves at the Pat's 35. No field goal and we punt the ball. We would have come out in the 2nd half fired up, instead the Pats run back the opening kick and Miami's curls into the fetal position and waives the white flag. :angry:
     
  20. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    too easy. fact is they got 6 total points out of those ints. lets say we get 2 more tds that adds 14 making 28. then say as a result the pick 6 doesnt happen, they still have 34, if u go further n assume pats only got 2 fgs due to ints, then that makes it tied @ 28.

    problem is it is based on huge assumptions. no guarentees or likelihood we get 2 tds n pats get 0 points w/o the 2 ints.

    young qbs make mistakes, to expect not is nnaive imo. sanchez faced one d playing tough, sorry our d is good but still gelling n maturing, db made bunch mistakes. Snatchez is good n playing well but hhasnt been fully tested yet. blt game they were ready to sh*t can him
     
  21. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    next year ? you mean 2012, there is no next year (at least not right now).
     
  22. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I understand what you're saying, I just don't think its accurate.

    Those two picks being TDs instead only changes the score and not the final result. After the Pats ran back the kickoff, we still marched down the field for a TD. It was the Special Teams that broke our back and took the wind out of our sails. Even with the picks, our defense held the Pats to just 2 FGs in the half the picks happened in, then only allowed one TD in the second.
     
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  23. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    "Is Chad Henne's job in trouble?"

    If Chad Henne was on special teams, then yes.
     
  24. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm concerned, but I am fairly confident we will have a next year. Maybe not an 16 game next year, but the players can't miss out on an entire year of their livelihood, and they've got a lot of bargaining chips to play around with last I read.

    They are no where close to a deal, but there are places that both sides can work with that can make a deal possible.
     
  25. High Definition

    High Definition No Smoke / No Drink 2011+

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    I still don't see how people blame Brandon Marshall for the third OT. It was pretty obvious to me that Marshall's intention was to fake the linebacker by coming across the slant left, then cut right to get separation with all green in front of him, and that's exactly what he did. Henne forced it in there too early just like he forced the first INT. Had he waited (and he had all the time in the world) and hit Marshall in stride.... there's no telling what happens after the catch. New England's DB's were all down the field.
     
  26. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Its Ginn's fault.
     
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  27. Anonymous

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    Because Marshall didn't run where he was supposed to run
     
  28. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Nah, that was all on Marshall. You can't do that to your QB and stop running your route.
     
  29. High Definition

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    Would have been picked off anyway. The defender read the play and was in perfect position.

    That, IMO, is why Marshall made the adjustment.
     
  30. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    He is on the field. Ever see him run and dive with the ball? He certainly doesn't shy away from contact.

    sent from my EVO 4G
     
  31. SICK

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    thats not making an adjustment. thats "running the wrong route"

    when the route is "run a drag accross the field" and you run a drag to mid field, thats the wrong route.

    Marshall has said as much, he admitted he made a mistake. If marshall keeps running it wouldnt have been a int because a 6'4 230 pound reciever trying to catch the ball would be in chungs way......

    i love how THE GUY WHO RAN THE ROUTE admitted he made a mistake, yet some people ignore it and continue with their own fantasy
     
  32. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    You lost me. That's not smack - it's fact. Sorry you see it that way.

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  33. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    I thought that was pointed the other way not at you. Maybe I'm wrong?
     
  34. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    The OP thought BB was a Phins fan talking smack to Darrelle...I think
     
  35. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    How is the blame shifted to a QB, any QB, not just a Miami Dolphins QB, when the special teams coached was fired and 21 points came as a result of special teams?
     
  36. Steven-O

    Steven-O F*** the JETS!!

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    this makes me angry that people are so quick to throw henne on the bench??? he's not doing half that bad this season. he has 4 ints this year with 3 of them coming against the pats last week. he just had a bad game with ints against the pats. he still had 306 yrds passing and a TD. he cant help we give up a kickoff return and a blocked punt. direct result was one int return and he was trying to do too much, i dont know why but he was. he was forcing the football in places he normally throws away. he is top 10 completion percentage and has some decent passing yards.

    is everyone made cause the bills gave the pats trouble and we got smashed? so now they want to point fingers at sparano and Henne???? i think henne will learn from this i HOPE sparano gets us back on track. Pennington cant even throw a deep ball to marshall Henne has those capabilities, i know the deep ball isnt our main thing but all around he is a good QB. i think its better keeping Pennington as QB.

    If we change our QB position right now i think its going to be disaster the rest of the season. if he starts throwing INTs like crazy like jay cutler or something horrible like that, then we start talking about movements....
     
  37. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    And if those points didn't come via ST, Henne still threw 3 INT. The game was 20-14 at that point. With Henne being counted on to lead the team back. With the way he played, do you think he could of done it? I don't.

    I hope he rebounds and plays well against GB. We'll see what the future holds.
     
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  38. Rocky Raccoon

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    What? Henne had already thrown the 2 bad picks, and STILL lead the team on a TD drive to make it 20-14. What makes you think he couldn't do it, when he already had done it before the ST completely imploded?
     
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  39. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    What are you talking about?

    After throwing 2 picks in the 1st half, and the score 20-7 (one TD of which was a KR for TD, the other off like an 8 yd drive after a punt block), Henne led us down on a TD drive to get us within a TD (20-14). Then the defense came out and allowed a 12 play 70 yd TD drive (27-14).

    The next drive Henne takes us on his own 11 play 79 yd drive which would have been for pts (a FG), had the STs not botched the blocking completely. We might have ended up with a TD had Polite not missed a block which led to a sack on 2nd and 10 from NE's 29.

    The 3rd pick wasn't even Henne's fault.


    Henne has played great this year whenever we are tied or up to being down 2 scores. I have little doubt he could take us back (for a score) if we really needed it.
     
  40. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I'm talking about if the ST disasters never happened (since the subject was the game wa lost by the ST and not a combination of the two).

    He was playing pretty bad at that point. And he still threw another INT. I know there's debate over who was at fault, but I think Henne has to realize throwing a drag to Marshall when a defender is over the top is dumb. Marshall read that, why didn't Henne? The guy went downhill fast in that game. I don't think he could of lead us to victory without the ST errors.

    I'm not that high on Henne. I think he has a ceiling and it's pretty much above average. I hope I'm wrong, but looking at his performance all year, not much has changed from last year. He's still making the same exact mistakes. ATEoTD, I understand this year will be the Chad Henne experiment and he'll have the entire year to sink or swim. I hope he swims, but I don't exactly have confidence in him.
     

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