McKinnie has a suggestion...

Wow..I gotta agree with you there. If in fact he got that sense..there's being confident in your method..and just being ridiculously stubborn. I think maybe Philbin is being stubborn to a fault.

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Turner and Sherman will be gone first, count it.

Source?

As we watched that game, my buddy was saying the samething....those LB's were literally down to the millisecond it seems on some of those plays.....

maybe we can just promote mt mckinnie to ol coach next season.

I am not a pro football coach, can only make observations and let the people in the know handle it. Maybe the people in the know are not so smart. Lets hope they are smart enough to listen to him and make changes. I have to believe this info has made its rounds to other teams. Why so stubborn? WHY?!!!

"jdallen1222 wrote:

Source?

James Walker, who covers Phins for ESPN just tweeted it

"Paul 13 wrote:

maybe we can just promote mt mckinnie to ol coach next season.

Didn't McKinnie help out Brenner two weeks ago with advice during the Pats game. Players are doing the coaching, which is great, but where are the REAL COACHES?

If it were up to me the call would be this.

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Wow..I gotta agree with you there. If in fact he got that sense..there's being confident in your method..and just being ridiculously stubborn. I think maybe Philbin is being stubborn to a fault.

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That's what I've been saying. His stubborness is his biggest flaw.

I want him gone.

Did they use a silent count in Buffalo???

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Mckinnie just quoted "The change that I suggested will definately work, It will keep them(DEFENSE) honest now" Holy Smokes, is this a joke?

"LI phinfan wrote:

That we should change up our cadence and rhythm, Felt like the Bills were getting a jump on our snap count. Are you kidding me? This was brought up early in the season and our team dismissed the notion. Now our starting LT,who has played on two other teams, says its a problem. How stubborn can this coaching staff be? Our OL is already at a disadvantage, this news only compounds the problem. Week 17 was the time to address this problem?...no chance to do this the previous 16 weeks?

I have been saying since Week One that the cadence and rtythm has been a problem. what ever happened to the UP TEMPO we wanted to run? Why does almost every snap go down to 1 second on the play clock? I watched the game on replay and 2 of those corner blitzes came with 1 second left on the play clock. The corner timed it where Miami had to snap the ball just as he was running up across the line of scrimmage. You even see one where McKinnie didnt even have a chance to get out of his stance. Somehow we need to mix this up a bit...Buffalo has not been the only team to notice this and not the only one to take advantage of it

Can we please just take Jim Turner to the shed already? Hasn't he earned it by this point?

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Wow. Finally we see a player or coach actually take a stand and say that it's a problem. The fans have been clamoring over this one all year but every time a player or coach has commented on it, they've summarily dismissed it as a concern.

But yet Philbin doesn't think it's a big deal.

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Franchise record... nope, not a problem at all.

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Well we can't change personnel at this point so changes like this would seem.....elementary.....its hard to believe that we were reading this on a message board weeks ago....and its not an issue with the coaching staff? Wow. Maybe we can find a more flexible coach....maybe Dave Wannestadt is available...

The issue McKinnie is speaking of and the issue the board was speaking of are not the same.

McKinnie is suggesting changing up our snap count and Tannehill using his voice more.

The board was discussing go vs gogo.

Diffrrent issues.

"Alex44 wrote:

The issue McKinnie is speaking of and the issue the board was speaking of are not the same.

McKinnie is suggesting changing up our snap count and Tannehill using his voice more.

The board was discussing go vs gogo.

Diffrrent issues.

Interesting if true.

I think you're right. There's a difference between "cadence" and "snap count".

My issue is not so much the "go" or the "go-go" as running the play clock down to one everytime and that tap thing the guards do to Pouncey before the snap

Knowing Philbin, he'll probably cut Mckinnie now for suggesting a change. Philbin always gets rid of voices other than his own.

"Alex44 wrote:

The issue McKinnie is speaking of and the issue the board was speaking of are not the same.

McKinnie is suggesting changing up our snap count and Tannehill using his voice more.

The board was discussing go vs gogo.

Diffrrent issues.

Good point. I do think that the underlying issue is the lack of adjustments during games. We don't seem to be able to go away from the gameplan or adjust it when its not working. Simple changes in cadence or snap count shouldn't be huge issues to change during the week or at half time if we practice it during the week.

These are things that Tannehill has the control to change but hasn't. The timing and repetitiveness is the main problem, although the go!-gogo! needs to be mixed up occasionally at the very least.