McFadden will not be a top 2 draftie

I could see the Jets drafting him in a heartbeat.

The current system of drafting QBs is killing the play of the position in the league. The front office drafts the QB. The fans demand to see him after the first loss of the starter. I'm not saying it can change, I'm just saying that it is killing the play of the position. It's also killing careers. It's damn near a career killer to be a QB drafted in the first round.

History serves for some draft picks but nothing in the NFL is more important than the passer. Top five picks are developing around the passing game. With that said, most top five picks can be summed up by these characteristics -

A passer
A receiver that can help the passer
A lineman that can protect the passer

or

A lineman that can rush the passer
A corner that can cover the receiver

Top five picks are more and more about the passing game.

I disagree, With AP dropping down to 7 last year, teams may view McFadden as too good to pass up regardless of their situation. i.e. Vikes had a good back in Chester Taylor and still went after Peterson. I think the Jets would jump him without a second thought.

"LikeUntoGod wrote:

He could fall to 5-7.

Look at what teams need, look at the history of the draft. Running backs always fall, Offensive and Defensive lineman always rise. Running backs play for 5 years, Lineman play for 10. It's all about value.

And as far as need, a number of teams need QB's more then RB's.

There are several good running backs this year. McFadden will be the first drafted.

Ya neither was Peterson even though he clearly was the best player in the draft. bet those other 6 teams wish they could have a do over. Do we really want another hind sight draft or have we learned yet. With the number 1 pick, the dolphins should choose who ever is the best player in the draft period. McFadden, Doresey or someone else just as long as we get the can miss premier talent.

RB's play for 5 years? Maybe we should draft McFadden then...seeing as Ronnie will already be in his 4th season next year.

"azstryker wrote:

Ya neither was Peterson even though he clearly was the best player in the draft. bet those other 6 teams wish they could have a do over. Do we really want another hind sight draft or have we learned yet. With the number 1 pick, the dolphins should choose who ever is the best player in the draft period. McFadden, Doresey or someone else just as long as we get the can miss premier talent.

Agree 100% a team with this much of a dearth in talent needs to just pick the BPA.

There is no way both of the top two quarterbacks make it out of the top five. Some team will make a trade with one of the top five. With our luck of late, they will trade with New England.

I think Dorsey will be a good player, but there is no way we can draft him. A DT just doesn't make enough of an impact. Trade for more picks or draft a skilled position

"azstryker wrote:

I think Dorsey will be a good player, but there is no way we can draft him. A DT just doesn't make enough of an impact. Trade for more picks or draft a skilled position

DT makes a huge impact on defense, HUGE.

Let's say that anyone can pick any Rookie off any other NFL team right now. No trade, they just have to give you anyone you want.

Would you pick Peterson? Or one of a number of defensive players. Or another player? We were runing for 5.1 ypc, if we had Peterson we could of up that to maybe 5.4 ypc

Wow.

Peterson or Willis? I can name 10 defensive rookies I'd rather have. And remember, this team is not being built to win this year, in fact, this year is over.

Now who would you pick with perfect 20/20 hindsight? (careful, I consider this is a NFL football IQ test)

Say No To Dorsey!!!!

"LikeUntoGod wrote:

Let's say that anyone can pick any Rookie off any other NFL team right now. No trade, they just have to give you anyone you want.

Would you pick Peterson? Or one of a number of defensive players. Or another player? We were runing for 5.1 ypc, if we had Peterson we could of up that to maybe 5.4 ypc

Wow.

Peterson or Willis? I can name 10 defensive rookies I'd rather have. And remember, this team is not being built to win this year, in fact, this year is over.

Now who would you pick with perfect 20/20 hindsight? (careful, I consider this is a NFL football IQ test)

Well, Peterson is having a phenomenal year, but so was Brown before getting hurt.

1. Okoye
1A. Willis
2. Landry

Knowing what I know now about our safteys, Landry may have moved up to 1

If McFadden falls out of the Top 5, and San Francisco keeps losing, I'm beginning to sweat at the possibility that the Patriots will take him and make their offence that much scarier.

"Believerinteal wrote:

If McFadden falls out of the Top 5, and San Francisco keeps losing, I'm beginning to sweat at the possibility that the Patriots will take him and make their offence that much scarier.

Can't worry about what the Pats will do, if you draft that way, you will never win.

"LikeUntoGod wrote:

Let's say that anyone can pick any Rookie off any other NFL team right now. No trade, they just have to give you anyone you want.

Would you pick Peterson? Or one of a number of defensive players. Or another player? We were runing for 5.1 ypc, if we had Peterson we could of up that to maybe 5.4 ypc

Now who would you pick with perfect 20/20 hindsight? (careful, I consider this is a NFL football IQ test)

JAMARCUS RUSSELL

"Zod wrote:

JAMARCUS RUSSELL

he would not be close to one of my top 15 rookies to draft.

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Can't worry about what the Pats will do, if you draft that way, you will never win.

You're right. No matter what they do, they'll still manage to kick the living crap out of the Dolphins for the next 10 years.

NJ, Only time will tell on that matter. I look at that list right now though and I see potential. Ronnie Brown could have run for 2000 yards this year and we still wouldn't have a winning record. The game is about the passer. Find your passer.

And one other thing.... If I could have any player in the league it would be Tom Brady.

If I could take any rookie, I'd take A.J. Hawk. He's a leader on defence, and has a good role model to look up to in Zach Thomas.

"Zod wrote:

Only time will tell on that matter. I look at that list right now though and I see potential. Ronnie Brown could have run for 2000 yards this year and we still wouldn't have a winning record. The game is about the passer. Find your passer.

Well, they're rarely consistent though. Alex Smith's had one good year. Eli Manning is marginal. Phil Rivers had a good year last year but that's because no one had any scouting on him. Vince Young has been banged up. I think the best of the young QB's is quite frankly, Ben Rothlesberger.

Hawk isn't a rookie he's in his second year I believe.

"Jagfish wrote:

Hawk isn't a rookie he's in his second year I believe.

Whoops my bad. I thought it said "young player."

"Believerinteal wrote:

You're right. No matter what they do, they'll still manage to kick the living crap out of the Dolphins for the next 10 years.

Since 1999

10/17/99 -- Miami 31, at New England 30
11/21/99 -- at Miami 27, New England 17
09/24/00 -- at Miami 10, New England 3
12/24/00 -- Miami 27, at New England 24
10/07/01 -- at Miami 30, New England 10
12/22/01 -- at New England 20, Miami 13
10/06/02 -- at Miami 26, New England 13
12/29/02 -- at New England 27, Miami 24 (ot)
10/19/03 -- New England 19, at Miami 13 (ot)
12/07/03 -- at New England 12, Miami 0
10/10/04 -- at New England 24, Miami 10
12/20/04 -- at Miami 29, New England 28
11/13/05 -- New England 23, at Miami 16
01/01/06 -- Miami 28, at New England 26
10/08/06 -- at New England 20, at Miami 10
12/10/06 -- at Miami 21, New England 0

I really don't call that getting the crap beat out of you. This year, yes.

"Believerinteal wrote:

Well, they're rarely consistent though. Alex Smith's had one good year. Eli Manning is marginal. Phil Rivers had a good year last year but that's because no one had any scouting on him. Vince Young has been banged up. I think the best of the young QB's is quite frankly, Ben Rothlesberger.

But he didn't ask about "young Qb's". He asked about last years draft.

As to the consistency, I'm looking at who is consistently winning and why they are winning.

Patriots, Colts, Cowboys, Packers

That is your class of the NFL and they all have the same thing in common. They have all found their passers. Everybody else is still scrambling to find their passer (including us). I'm just glad that we finally started looking.