Lost in the excitement; running game continues pedestrian streak

Defenses prepare all week to stop Ronnie and Ricky. I wouldn't be too concerned. This was the Miami offense taking what they were given. Denver can't stop anybody, the numbers will probably improve next week.

 

I feel like Im gonna beat a dead horse here, but the running game is pedestrian because again, teams are forcing Pennington and the passing game to beat them.

Ive seen the same defensive game plan just about every week from our opponents.

 

im thinking... we didn't get many yards up the middle..
but we did have nice blocks hugo...
ricky had a nice screen to the outside....not a run
williams also got a good block on his "let's run backwards expierement"....I almost called his mother. lol....good block by someone nonetheless..

maybe you're right...
our o line is really young though..

here's to hoping they grow together..

 

hey we know our running game is great, so im glad we proved we can win if they don't play the way they should each week

 

IMO, the problem is the interior of the line. We have a couple backup types playing RG and Satele is not a very good run blocker. Combine that with defenses playing the run daring CP to beat them and this is what you get.

 

We came out and ran the ball extremely well on that first drive, but seemed to move away from it. I don't know if that was the gameplan, or an adjustment by Hennig, but we really went away from Ronnie Brown after the first drive, up until the last few series of the game. Williams was a focus; the turnover could have proved fatal but we were able to recover from it.

On the bright side, we play the Denver Broncos next week, which *should* be a get-well recipe for Ricky and Ronnie.

 

After watching the Broncos on video and after that NE game, I absolutely agree with you and feel very confident going into that game.

 

Brown is an excellent Rb, period! He is coming off a very serious injury, and is getting better and more comfortable every week.

It's not all about the Rb's though. The offensive line has taken a step or two backwards then a step or two forward all season. It's all about them growing together. Then we'll start seeing the tree (Rb's Lineman, TE's) of this running game bare more fruit...

 

Yea, on second thought.. the play i was referring too was a screen, not a run..
our run game was suspect today, you're right hugo...

 

Gotta give the Bill's defense, and coaches some credit too. This is a young team, and they're still trying to gel, and the Bill's made some nice adjustments to stopping the run, and plain as heck made some good plays.

 

Ronnie has consistently shown he needs 15-20 reps per game, at least, to get in the flow of the game. Disappointing we didn't use him (or the Wildcat) more, because we had success when feeding him. I just think the game plan was focused more on Ricky and Ginn today.

Denver's run defense is abysmal. They're like the 2005 Colts.

Jason Allen?

 

That was before we got a Qb that could actually get the Wr's involved. Should they run the ball better? Sure why not but this offense got a lot more balanced when Pennington was signed. Sometimes you just take what teams are giving until things start to gel ....

 

Marshall is a much more physical receiver than Lee Evans. Will Allen did a pretty decent job of jamming him at the LOS today.

It's going to take a team effort to shut down Marshall. And another monster day from Joey Porter would help immensely.

By the way, where has Roth been these last few weeks?

 

Best suggestion against Denver would be to just keep the offense off the field. It sounds simple but using your TEs and your RBs, as well as the running game you can do it and beat up the Denver pass rush.

 

I think we'll see Marshall be covered by Jason Allen as VO mentioned as well as Will Allen as you said Hugo. Jason Allen is physical, has the speed, size and vertical jump (40 inch) to go up with Marshall. Will Allen struggles with physical WR's which what Marshall exactly is. I think we'll see Jason Allen on him though, I also think that Jason needs to stop giving so much cushion to Wide Receivers. Today he gave about eight or so yards of cushion and sometimes gave up catches because of it. A sideline catch comes to mind to Evans. I think Jason can be physical and I would like to see him possibly try to jam Marshall at the LOS at times but also give up a smaller cushion because he has the speed (4.38 forty) to recover if Marshall was to go by him.

 

I agree whole-heartedly.

Not only are we not running the ball, but we're not running inside a whole lot. Against Baltimore, we acted as if the interior was infested with rabies. Today was similar. Outside, outside, outside. I understand that Baltimore is dominant up front. And Buffalo can be decent as well. But you're never going to have success if you continue to avoid it.

There are going to be games played in a downpour, and games in the snow, where you HAVE to be able to just line up and run it. I don't care if it fails. Just gotta invest in it IMO.

 

the point was that our running attack was invisible.

did that the win game for us? maybe?

did we win?

wheres the point in that?

if you can run for 300 yards a game and still lose does that put some air into the argument?

when does that point become valid?

sorry point man.

guys like drew brees and philip rivers can throw for 300+ yards per game and have a mediocre running attack and still win games is my point. just look at the stats from scrimmage, this game we just had is pretty close to those STAT wise and i could give a **** about stats.

we had a win, i just hope to continue the trend. whatever it takes man. just because stats show something doesn't discredit what they have done.

thats my point. disagree all you want.

i can.

 

Of course but I dont think its just the Rb's. The line was gettng blown up after that first drive, and especially up the middle. Satele has taken a big step backwards imo...

 

Really, the only way to stop Marshall is to keep him off the field. Getting back to Hugo's original point, let's hope that we run the ball 20-30 times next week, if only to keep Cutler and Marshall on the sidelines, where they can't do any damage against us.

 

Buffalo was keyed in on the run. They went in with the gameplan of let's make Pennington and the receivers beat us and they did. The runs were getting stuffed and Pennington was flinging it all over the field. You take what the D gives you.

I had Ronnie Brown starting on my fantasy roster and I could give 2 ****s that he didn't have a great game. A win is a win is a win.

 

He may be a physical CB but I think he struggles with the bigger, physical WR's. i.e. Larry Fitzgerald.

Alright dude, your point, take it easy.

The run game is suppose to be our strength and it's struggling. Its a legit concern because as Muck pointed out, when it gets to bad weather out there, you want to have a successful run game to lean back on.

 

Thats true Alen but what corners DONT struggle with the Andre Johnsons and Larry Fitzgeralds of the world?

 

Lol, true. Good point.

Btw, you see his day today. Johnson - 143 yards, 11 grabs.

 

I read and surely agree except I think it has a lot to do with the line.

I watch Satele a lot and he needs to be the anchor of the line or it will not jel fast enough. I'm by no means saying cut him. I like him fine but he needs to keep progressing forward imo...

 

i think when it comes down to it, we need to pass the ball. what are we doing on 3rd and longs? with ginn showing up today it gives the team confidence that a receiver can take it in his hands. this is the type of things i like to see.

the running attack is what we want to see succeed, but when it comes to being down points in a game its heartening to see that we can throw the ball.

i wasn't a proponent for pennington, but what he showed today is impressing me. that throw to ginn long, you can argue his arm strength wasn't there, but he made the completion and ginn went up for the ball and had a HUGE completion. Thats the type of game I would love to watch here on out.

I'm not taking anything away from this win and I really don't want to hear negativity. Maybe i let my emotions get the best of me, but when we get a hard fought win i just let it go sometimes when theres people out there that can't write along those lines.

my bad.

 

Best cover guy for Marshall=Porter in the backfield putting Cutler on his ***.

We should imo just watch that pats game about 100 times this week. They outplayed them both sides of the ball and then some.

 

Coming into that Pats game, I think Denver had allowed only 4 sacks. The Patriots just flat out overpowered the Denver offensive line (aside from Clady). If I remember correctly, they also blitzed a lot.

 

Most if not all of our opponents are willing to go all out to stop us running...

They know its our strength and not afraid to let us beat them by the pass...

For the most part you see opponents with 7-9 men in the box when we don't spread them out...

today, like last few games, they told us try to pass and win like that...

What happened today on the play action TD to Fasano... they keep everyone in to stop the run...

I just hope that we can threaten opponents with the pass... that way we can run better...

 

Thats correct and Miami just made some strides in making teams start respecting our passing game. Maybe we'll see some teams start relaxing a little with all the stacking the box and run blitz packages they've been doing...

 

if Ginn keeps playing like he did today, i think that'll help some.

 

Hey I agree, I got so upset with our performance today, I ripped Sprano earlier in the game.

I am just so tired of it. This is not a hard game to play, the Bills are an average football team and it seems as though we play to everyone's level.

Hey, it could be me, that I expect so much, maybe I'm the problem.....

Oh well....


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Simple on point analysis, Chad played great and had to play great because the bills whole scheme was daring him to play great, to his credit he answered the challege which will help us for next week.

Took a big step today in improving as a team

 

I guess I have a simple view point for my opinion of the Dolphins play and how they perform. Things have been so bad in Miami with the three ring circus we've had here that I appreciate anything good or positive that the team accomplishes.
Irregardless of wins or losses I know this is a rebuilding team that is trying to come together and I can find positives in every game, even in the losses. We are growing and I am sure Parcells, Ireland and Sparano want the same things we want. We are no longer the doormat of the NFL and teams can no longer see the Dolphin games as a given and I appreciate that in itself.
The old saying "Build it and they will come", it seems to apply here as they are building it and the wins and fans will come.