Under the terms of the lockout, we were only able to move this years picks for this years picks. In essence, our bargaining posture was highly dubious (E-Respect for whoever gets that reference). But now, Roster players and future picks can be dealt. Big news. See if we get to dealing Thursday.
False. There is no free agency or player movement because there are no rules governing the process. Teams will also be reluctant to play players without any sort of indication as to whether or not there’ll be a salary cap, or what sort of salary structure 2011 and future seasons will operate under. If the league office came out and said that 2011 would operate under 2010 league rules, you’d start seeing free agent visits, trades, and player signings. But that’s not going to happen. For all anyone knows, the 8th Circuit can issue a stay tomorrow.
I think it's likely they go back to 2010 rules, just whether they decide to do that before the draft is doubtful.
Well they can show up for work, but it looks like the NFL is going force them into doing nothing while they are there. No workouts, no injury treatments, and no conversations (at least on record) between the players & the coaches.
I don't think much changes with regard to what we can or are willing to deal. The only movement I think we will see will be trading current picks to move up or back.
I've heard this mentioned before, and it doesn't make sense. Without a new CBA, there is no 2012 draft, this is it. Even the Comish mentioned the players potentially trying to do away with the draft. So, how do you trade a pick in a draft which does not now exist? Any links on this, one way or the other?
I think it's a risk assessment. You can trade future picks, but the team receiving the future picks is taking a big risk due to the uncertainty surrounding the future or lack of a new labor deal.
The NFLPA WANT a draft and the rookie cap that will come along with it as at the end of the day it means more money for Veterans who can vote in NFLPA stuff.
Remains to be seen Deej, if the injunction against the lockout is upheld then the NFL will have to create work rules for the 2011 season and that could include a rookie cap, or not, I'd suspect the easiest thing in that case would just be to extend the 2010 rules until the 2011 season ends and there was no salary cap.
Draft selections are not concerned by the CBA. They are a 'currency' the league distributes completely independantly from the players.
No, it's really not. You don't need a CBA to hold a draft. You need the CBA to sign the players that got drafted. Two entirely different things.
Here's the run down from Wiki. The 2012 NFL Draft will be the 77th annual meeting of National Football League (NFL) franchises to select newly eligible football players. Unlike the 2011 NFL Draft, there is no provision allowing for future drafts if the entire 2011 NFL season is lost to lockout and a new collective bargaining agreement is not approved by the league and the National Football League Players Association by April 2012. As such, teams have been advised to trade picks in this draft at their own risk. (A specific exemption in the previous CBA allowed the draft immediately following the league's opt-out of the CBA, i.e. the 2011 draft, to take place, but this does not apply to future drafts.)
There might not be a current provision but there's little to prevent the league from simply introducing one should it so desire. The NFL really doesn't need the players to make a draft happen - they just need to agree that no one else apart from the team that selected a given player can make him a contract offer. If there's no CBA by April 2012, I suspect filing a lawsuit against such an ad hoc draft would be the least of the worries the NFLPA had ...
Padre, Glad to see you're OK. Where the hell did you disappear to. Ya know some had speculations as to why you were missing.
Not true, the draft is part of the CBA, and the anti-trust exemption. Without the CBA high school kids could go to the NFL. Remember the RB from OSU, Claret. The court ruled against him entering the draft because of the agreement between players and owners. That's also why the players added Von Miller to their legal team, to challenge the draft on their behalf, and why both parties have to agree on a rookie wage scale. Even now players are disputing the Comish's claim that they want to do away with the draft. No CBA, no exemption, no draft, and kids go wherever they want.
