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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DolPhinPhan7, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to be that guy, because we have 10 days of our team getting **** on by the Sports Media for letting Tua play that game.

    Teddy Bridgewater is still, as good, or better than the next 8 QBs we face.

    And none of those teams have a better defence than Buffalo and Cincy.

    Jets - Road - Wilson
    Vikes - Home - Cousins
    Stillers - Home - Trubisky or a Rookie
    Lions - Road - Goff
    Bears - Road - Fields
    Oranges - Home - Brisset
    Texas - Home - Mills?
    Niners - Road - Jimmy G

    We were just on a 10-1 stretch. There's no reason the Dolphins can be 11-1 going into December.

    None of the teams we play over the next two months are even half as good as the last 3 teams we played.
     
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  2. cbrad

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    Bridgewater is average. Except for some really weak teams like the Jets and Texans, winning those games will be closer to 50/50 because we can't move the ball with him in any consistent way. He's 16-19 since 2018. That's no accident even if he wasn't on great teams.

    We need Tua back ASAP (or at least by the Vikings game).
     
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  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I agree- We need Tua to go on a 10-1 run to start the year. The most brutal part of the schedule is behind us and 3-1 is an awesome accomplishment. Then 10 winnable games and some tough ones at the end. This really could be a 3 or 4 loss team with Tua at the helm.

    At the same time though, I hope they keep him out as long as he needs to be out. I saw Matt Moore rushed back into action with Carolina and it tanked his entire career as a starter. That's the very last thing we need with Tua, regardless how someone feels about him. No more salty Tua....give us healthy Tua on whatever timetables that requires.

    For the record, I think he had a concussion in the Bills game. He never should have started (or even played) this week.
     
  4. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    They definitely do not need to go 10-1 if we are talking playoffs. Maybe for the division.
     
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  5. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    You are not a doctor.
     
  6. cbrad

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    Next 4 games for the Bills will be very important too. They play @Ravens, Steelers, @Chiefs, Packers. They lose at least 2 of those.. our path to the division crown is still pretty good.
     
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  7. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Nope, I'm not. But he definitely has a concussion now so he needs to be out until his head is 100%. We need him back, but he definitely shouldn't come back too soon.
     
  8. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I agree, and those are four "losable" games for them. 2-2 in that stretch would be awesome for us.
     
  9. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe that at all. Looking at that schedule and our current roster / injury status I see the following some to close to call but I went with my gut.

    Jet- Close game but we win
    Vikings - We lose
    Stillers - win
    Lions - win
    Berars - Win
    Oranges - Win
    Texas - Lose
    Niners - Lose

    I had us at 10-7 before the season and now with the injuries I say we slip 2-3 games because of that. 7-10 8-9 kinda season now.
     
  10. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    It's negligent for you and every other keyboard doctor to insist that Tua suffered a concussion on Sunday, when in fact he was evaluated by a real, actual, living breathing medical doctor, in compliance with NFL concussion protocol, and was determined to NOT have a concussion.

    People need to understand this.
     
  11. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I said, "I think he had a concussion..." I didn't insist anything. You do realize that there's very little known about head trauma and a concussion could have been missed by a medical doctor, right? I'm sure they did all the tests and Tua came back negative. But it's not like checking blood pressure or taking your temperature.
     
  12. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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  13. ripper1961

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    I am still stewing over the way his injury happened. I know it is a physical game but slamming him into the ground after he was in the grasp was uncalled for. The same defender was involved in another incident with our RB later in the game.
     
  14. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Like Key, I don't want Tua back until he's 100% and since concussions aren't all alike, it's difficult to say how long he will need.

    We played last night (God how I hate Thursday Night Football). The Dolphins don't play again until October 9th, 10 days from last night's game and the following week on the 16th. That's 17 days. I can live with Dishwater running the offense against the Jests, but not against the Vikings.

    Can Tua recover and be medically cleared in 17 days? I really don't know. Tua could be good to go in a week, a month, maybe out for the season. I really don't know, but what I do know is if Tagovailoa isn't back by the time we face the Lions, the season is over. Without Tua, I can see us still winning against the Jets, losing against the Vikings as well as the Steelers...that would be 3 losses. Playing against the resurging Lions without Tua, that'll be 4 losses on a 3 game losing streak (provided we beat the Jets).

    Without Tua and with Bridgewater starting, flip a coin on whether or not we win. Sadly I feel its a dual sided coin that doesnt land in our favor.
     
  15. Fireland

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    They can survive if Howard and Jones are back and close to 100%. Teddy will get more comfortable and the defense could make up some of the slack. Goff and Trubisky are the kind of QBs they feast on.
     
  16. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Bridgewater will fold like a cheap suit under the pressure that will come from the Vikings and Steelers defense
     
  17. Fireland

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    Steelers have no offense so its extremely winnable
     
  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    We can definitely stay competitive based off of that schedule. We just went through a four game gauntlet of awesome teams and came out 3-1. I like where we are at even if Bridgewater has to hold it down for a couple weeks. We can beat the Jets, the Vikings maybe not. After that if Tua can make it back, maybe we hit another run. I don't know. Anything can happen in this league. It's one game at a time.
     
  19. texanphinatic

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    Vikings D is garbage. Their offense can score, but Cook is already dinged up. Focus on taking away Jefferson and you have the upper hand. They should have lost to the Lions. That Packers game was a mirage.
     
  20. Rick 1966

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    I have no idea what's going to happen with Tua, but I don't believe we'll win a single game with Bridgewater at QB.
     
  21. Fishhead

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    I highly doubt Tua is back as early as the Vikings game. This is going to be the most scrutinized injury in NFL history. He will have to pass a gazillion tests before he’s allowed back, even to practice.
     
  22. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I doubt he will be too. Would I like him to be? Of course, but only IF he is medically cleared and good to go. I don't want to see this kid...well, any other NFL player get hurt for that matter.

    With this injury happening in prime time, with no other games being played to dilute the Miami/Cincinnati, ALL eyes were on it. There will indeed be quite a bit of scrutiny on his health and return.

    I can even see there being pundits saying he shouldn't play even when/if he's medically cleared.
     
  23. Fishhead

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    There are a lot of armchair neurologists on the NFL and sports talk programs all of a sudden, plus the usual morons (Stephen A Smith, I’m talking about you) spouting off about “people should be fired “ and his teammates should have “stepped up and not let him play”, among other drivel I’ve heard.
     
  24. Finatik

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    But I thought the winning record had nothing to do with the QB and shouldn’t be brought up. What is it - it can’t be both. You bring up Huber’s record and that’s what the narrative. Either it is or it isn’t.
     
  25. cbrad

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    There's no mathematical way W/L record "has nothing to do with the QB". If that were true then it means the QB contributes absolutely nothing to win%. Also I don't recall ever bringing up Herbert's record. Nor have I ever said win% should never be brought up for QBs.

    In any case, the correlation between passer rating and win% across NFL history is 0.634, so 0.634^2 = 40% of variation in win% is explained by what goes into passer rating. Exactly how much of that is due only to the QB who knows, but the QB is the one constant in his passer rating, so clearly a good portion of win% is due to QB performance. Using a different approach and Y/A I once estimated the QB contributes about 15% to win%, but there's no way to really tell (better than having no estimate though).
     

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