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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by gafinfan, Apr 12, 2011.

  1. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    It appears Judge Nelson is going to put an end to this romp in the kindergarden room by the NFL and its players!

    http://phinphanatic.com/2011/04/12/pre-season-schedule-and-labor-update/

     
  2. gunsmithx

    gunsmithx Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It really sounds like she'd much rather have them work this out then have even the injunction decided in court. For the lawyers out there, if they are close to striking a deal would the judge delay a ruling to give the sides time to work it out? I would guess so but have little experience with the courts.
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Best to use PFF for any sort of legal analysis on the court proceedings.

     
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  4. ckparrothead

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    She's getting tough.

    Someone said it earlier on Twitter...she can make them negotiate, she can't make them agree.

    But what she can damn well try and do, is make it hard to negotiate without coming to agreement.
     
  5. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If they can't agree, they can't agree. But the conditions are there so that if they can, it is done. that's all she can do.
     
  6. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    And then one side will file an appeal....
     
  7. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is a common tactic judges use when they want a case settled. The idea is that a single individual can be isolated and worn down during a long mediation session, to the point that the "decision maker" might give in on a point that would not be conceded if the person could consult outside chambers. This strong-arm tactic is unfair because most organizations after a certain level of size or complexity are not set up to have a single decision maker. They are governed by boards, and dissent and discussion are part of the decision-making process. While this slows things down, it also prevents ill-considered decisions. If the board is not comfortable with delegating the decision-making power to a single individual but is still willing to mediate in good faith, they could call the judge's bluff and say that the best they can do is delegate to a committee, reach a tentative agreement, and go back to the board with a recommendation on an expedited basis. The judge, of course, can decide to hurt your side if you don't play ball; it's a fine line to walk.
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    While true, you’re overlooking the fact that if an agreement isn’t reached, the judge will issue her own ruling regardless of what happens in mediation.
     
  9. schmolioot

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    All mediations need to include the parties or a rep with full authority, even in state court.

    Making a phone call isn't a problem, saying that you can't make a decision without talking to 10 other people is.
    Goodell will need to be there at some point with enough owners to make a deal. I imagine De Smith has something close to full authority.

    Nelson can't make them settle but she can apply lots of pressure. She's under no pressure or authority to rule any time soon. Maybe she decides to rule in August. Or next year.
     
  10. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    She’s already said she’s going to issue a ruling sooner rather than later, and that what happens in mediation has no influence on her ruling.
     
  11. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    This chick's ready for some football!








    Sorry judge, I'll leave now. :shifty:
     
  12. DrAstroZoom

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    I think I like this broad.
     
  13. Darrelle Revis

    Darrelle Revis I BELIEVE!

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    Get 'er done!
     
  14. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    I want the players to get every cent possible. People complain about their crazy salaries; however, one severely overlooked point is the fact that many of these players give back to their communities etc MUCH more than your typical upper class, greedy millionaires. There are sports leagues, facilities, childrens' organizations, etc across the country that wouldn't exist if it weren't for these guys.

    Heck, similarly paid A-list movie stars probably give back less while subjecting themselves to no future potential physical and/or mental handicaps (unless you're Cuba Gooding Junior and your career takes a dive straight to video, b/c that could be damaging).
     
  15. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    So you have no problem with labor cost, sooner rather than later or ever, bringing down the sport we love to watch? That a normal guy won't be able to afford to take his family to see their favorite team or even watch them save when they are on regular TV?
     
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  16. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    You're taking it too literally. lol. I didn't say I want them getting every cent of my or our money, but rather I'd prefer to see more in their pockets instead of the owners.
     
  17. PhinishLine

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    If there isn't balance its not a good situation for fans.

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  18. Themole

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    The first professional football game I attended was a preseason in 1970. Cost me $6.50! My how times have changed.
     
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  19. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    The 1st game we went to as a family was the home opener in 1967 against the Denver Broncos. Bob Griese was the new QB sensation and we got a discount for 4 tickets for $ 5 a piece at Kwik-Check (later bought by Winn-Dixie) over on 8th St & 70th Ave.
     
  20. Ozzy

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    I'd like to see the players play for free. :)
     
  21. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    shut up..... antagonizer.



    lol.
     
  22. Ozzy

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    Well, the ones who would hit the field would be playing for the love of the game. Not to play a few years to get that one big contract then tank it.

    Yeah, I was kidding but ....


    and it's antagonist :)
     
  23. Miamifins854

    Miamifins854 Finkle is Einhorn

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    That's the difference between mediation and arbitration. Mediation you have a negotiator, where as arbitration is a forced ruling
     
  24. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    I was wondering why there was a red line under the word when I typed it.


    Wait........ now you're just antagonizing me on the word antagonizer. Besides, who anointed the person "boss" who made up the word in the first place?! Antagonizer is clearly a better choice. pfft
     
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  25. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Rams versus the Cowboys in the losers Bowl in the Orange Bowl. Free parking and $5.00 at the gate, if memory serves. About midway up on the 50 yard line, it rained like hell And Roger the dodger got the stuffins knocked out of him. The Rams won going away! I loved it!
     
  26. Ozzy

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    Ahhh shucks! I emailed Darrelle Bevis and asked him. Shoulda known better...
     
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