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Maybe they changed the story, but the only thing I read about Nolan, is what you already copied.

IMHO Barry Jackson is the best sports guy in the local papers. Always has good stuff in his sports buzz etc. He also has a good article on draft options for the Phins outside of a QB in the first rd.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/16/2592477/miami-dolphins-might-shun-qb-option.html

Wish the Dolphins would interview this guy.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/16/clements-will-interview-with-bucs/

We'll probably interview more coaches after the AFC/NFC championship games if we don't have a new HC before that, imo!

"FreeStyle wrote:

Don't know if it would be possible but if some of the candidates we interview don't get hired as HC, would love a few of them to be our coordinators...they probably want to be promoted up, but stranger things have happened..

I'm not sure if it's possible, i guess only if their contract expired but it would be nice! I'm also not sure why Todd Bowles don't get mentioned at all, he did a good job as interim HC and he is highly respected and liked by the players, imo!

"FreeStyle wrote:

I think Bowles is in the mix, but the Raiders are interested in him too...

I guess he's gone if he won't get hired as our new HC, just like Nolan! :sad:

The mention of Nolan being under contract suggests to me that there are situations where the candidate has expressed interest in keeping Nolan around. I'd speculate that Toub would be the most obvious of those possibilities, but it could also go for Philbin.

"Jimmy James wrote:

The mention of Nolan being under contract suggests to me that there are situations where the candidate has expressed interest in keeping Nolan around. I'd speculate that Toub would be the most obvious of those possibilities, but it could also go for Philbin.

Nolan is a known commodity, but to me, wouldn't this point to Todd Bowles being the HC?

Or is Nolan just looked at like Zimmer, and the defense is fine with him running it no matter who the next coach will be?

It seems unlikely to me that Zimmer would be comfortable with using Nolan as a DC unless the two have experience working together that I don't know about. I'd also think it would be relatively uncomfortable for both Bowles and Nolan for Bowles to be promoted over his old boss and keep him on. That's not as unlikely as Zimmer, but I think it is sort of unlikely.

We saw exactly that happen this yr though JJ, Bowles up to interim over Mike Nolan.

Interim is one thing, and permanent is another. Mind you, I think a lot of the potential awkwardness might have passed due to how that worked out. I'd think the biggest issue here would be Nolan and ego. It would be one thing for them to bring in some non-defensive coach who retains him and a different thing for a subordinate to become his boss. My thought is that Nolan wouldn't be into that and might be responsible in part for the Atlanta rumor. Time will tell.

Mike McCoy coached with Mike Nolan in Denver in 2009.

"KB21 wrote:

Mike McCoy coached with Mike Nolan in Denver in 2009.

There is no counting out that Nolan recommended McCoy.

The '09 Broncos were 8-8 with those two as head assistants to Josh McDaniels. For yardage ranks, McCoy's side was 15th in yards gained and Nolan's group was 7th in yards allowed. Is it right to assume that McDaniels called the plays on offense?

ok I am going to ask this question because the talk about Gruden and Cowher went from posibility to dead and burried.

my question is is it too late to Ross to fire Ireland and just go get Gruden . e

"Jimmy James wrote:

Interim is one thing, and permanent is another. Mind you, I think a lot of the potential awkwardness might have passed due to how that worked out. I'd think the biggest issue here would be Nolan and ego. It would be one thing for them to bring in some non-defensive coach who retains him and a different thing for a subordinate to become his boss. My thought is that Nolan wouldn't be into that and might be responsible in part for the Atlanta rumor. Time will tell.

Nolan is retained and sits tight IMO. We will have a rook as a HC. We know that now. :wink2:

"Aquafin wrote:

ok I am going to ask this question because the talk about Gruden and Cowher went from posibility to dead and burried.

my question is is it too late to Ross to fire Ireland and just go get Gruden . e

Yes, because it is apparent that Gruden is happy where he is.

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"Aquafin wrote:

ok I am going to ask this question because the talk about Gruden and Cowher went from posibility to dead and burried.

my question is is it too late to Ross to fire Ireland and just go get Gruden . e

What leads you to believe firing Ireland puts Gruden in play?

I think I am in the Bowles camp at this point. If we aren't going to go after a name and proven commodity (which surprises me, to be honest) then I want to keep some sort of continuity. Despite three consecutive losing seasons, I believe that this team does not need to be blown up, simply coached up and some strategic pieces added to the mix. Another pass rusher is key, as is a ball hawking safety on defense. The offense can use a quality hands, speed receiver, as well as a seam ripping tight end. We may have that in Clay who did okay as a rookie. He would need to improve drastically in his sophomore campaign though in order to ignore that position outright this offseason.

We aren't getting an elite QB in this draft so sit tight with Moore, possibly sign someone to compete (Flynn or a veteran) and go to war with Bush, Marshall, Long and Co. Just keep stacking talent and see if Bowles can get these guys where Sparano couldn't. That is to say, to the playoffs, consistently.

"Samphin wrote:

I think I am in the Bowles camp at this point. If we aren't going to go after a name and proven commodity (which surprises me, to be honest) then I want to keep some sort of continuity. Despite three consecutive losing seasons, I believe that this team does not need to be blown up, simply coached up and some strategic pieces added to the mix. Another pass rusher is key, as is a ball hawking safety on defense. The offense can use a quality hands, speed receiver, as well as a seam ripping tight end. We may have that in Clay who did okay as a rookie. He would need to improve drastically in his sophomore campaign though in order to ignore that position outright this offseason.

We aren't getting an elite QB in this draft so sit tight with Moore, possibly sign someone to compete (Flynn or a veteran) and go to war with Bush, Marshall, Long and Co. Just keep stacking talent and see if Bowles can get these guys where Sparano couldn't. That is to say, to the playoffs, consistently.

If as you say, all this team needs is to be, COACHED" up. I would say Bowles is definitely NOT the man for the head coaching position. He has been the Dolphins defensive backfield coach for the last four years. This unit was one of the most inconsistent units on the entire team during this period. So if he was unable to be a productive position coach over the last four years, why would anyone think that he would be an effective head coach in the NFL?

If not for the Rooney Rule, I seriously doubt that Bowles would have even been interviewed for the head coaching job with the Dolphins.

Philbin...how much of Green Bays offensive success does he get credit for? I haven't seen enough of Green Bay to know if he's done an outstanding job there, or if it's due mostly to having the double discount check at QB. If it's legitimately down to Philbin, then I'd be quite pumped for him to be HC.

Also, haven't seen it said anywhere yet, but getting ever more thankful we passed on Fisher now he's hired Shotty as OC. Had quite enough of that sort of playcalling here over the last few years as it is.

"Samphin wrote:

I think I am in the Bowles camp at this point. If we aren't going to go after a name and proven commodity (which surprises me, to be honest) then I want to keep some sort of continuity. Despite three consecutive losing seasons, I believe that this team does not need to be blown up, simply coached up and some strategic pieces added to the mix. Another pass rusher is key, as is a ball hawking safety on defense. The offense can use a quality hands, speed receiver, as well as a seam ripping tight end. We may have that in Clay who did okay as a rookie. He would need to improve drastically in his sophomore campaign though in order to ignore that position outright this offseason.

We aren't getting an elite QB in this draft so sit tight with Moore, possibly sign someone to compete (Flynn or a veteran) and go to war with Bush, Marshall, Long and Co. Just keep stacking talent and see if Bowles can get these guys where Sparano couldn't. That is to say, to the playoffs, consistently.

This is more or less where I am at Sammie, there are no obvious quick fixes at Coach or Qb, this is why adding talent at playmaking positions makes sense.

I'd like to add Payton Hillis, and Orton, maybe Martellus Bennett as well, as I'm not sure Thomas is an answer and Orton v Moore would be the best that can be done at Qb, and Bennett looks like one of those bargain Free Agents that Ireland can find who produce beyond their contract number.

"Cass wrote:

Philbin...how much of Green Bays offensive success does he get credit for? I haven't seen enough of Green Bay to know if he's done an outstanding job there, or if it's due mostly to having the double discount check at QB. If it's legitimately down to Philbin, then I'd be quite pumped for him to be HC.

Also, haven't seen it said anywhere yet, but getting ever more thankful we passed on Fisher now he's hired Shotty as OC. Had quite enough of that sort of playcalling here over the last few years as it is.

Lol at having the discount double check at QB.

Orton will be staying in KC, not? At least to compete with Cassel, if not start. Is he even worth bringing into the discussion?

"jw3102 wrote:

If as you say, all this team needs is to be, COACHED" up. I would say Bowles is definitely NOT the man for the head coaching position. He has been the Dolphins defensive backfield coach for the last four years. This unit was one of the most inconsistent units on the entire team during this period. So if he was unable to be a productive position coach over the last four years, why would anyone think that he would be an effective head coach in the NFL?

If not for the Rooney Rule, I seriously doubt that Bowles would have even been interviewed for the head coaching job with the Dolphins.

I do not agree with this at all. Unless Bowles taught them to not catch the ball, the defensive backs were pretty good in 2010(minus not catching the damn ball).

Then in 2011 without off season coaching the defensive backs went to ****. However the group that had the most improvement by far half way through the season after there was coaching was the defensive backs.

Plus if a team needs to be "COACHED" up, that doesn't always mean break down the fundamentals, that could also mean managed well. One thing last year showed us is that Sparano was poor at managing the team week to week. It was when he changed his management style is when the team started to play well.

Also your final statement shows a lack of focus when it comes to reading about up and coming coaches.