Last Chance at a Pat Devlin Game in 10 Minutes (7pm EST, Jan. 7th)

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  1. ckparrothead

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    Playing in the FCS Finals tonight against Eastern Washington.

    Being a champion would go a long way toward making the scouts fall in love with him.

    Throwing the ball 25 yards through the air more regularly during the game would go even further toward that end.

    Strengths: Reads the field quickly, and regularly (and I do mean regularly) gets down to his 3rd and 4th reads on the play. Very accurate. Can have nearly an entire game without throwing a single uncatchable ball. Good placement, although as TedSlimmJr points out as is the case for most right-handers, his accurate is a little less good to the left as opposed to the right. Can drive the football when he gets his feet under him and follows through. VERY good eye usage, looks off zone defenders frequently. Throws with touch, knows how to use it. Gets the ball out quickly, with good timing and anticipation. Has full command of the offense. Quick release, yet unlike a lot of guys with quick three-quarters releases, he still gets the ball very high over top...kind of unique. His footwork in his drop is about as good as it gets, which is curious because he's a shortgun quarterback. But, it makes you think he'll have no issues moving under Center.

    Weaknesses: Can have games where the pressure and coverage is getting to him and go turtle in the backfield, taking some sacks. Arm strength not elite caliber, really needs his feet under him to drive the football properly. Accuracy at intermediate and deep depths is tough to gauge, because he doesn't throw very many of those passes, whereas with a Brandon Weeden he throws them on just about every play. When he has thrown bigger passes, I've seen the ball sail at times. Played in the shortgun. And obviously, level of competition is a concern.
     
  2. KB21

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    Honestly, this is the guy I'm most interested in. I'll be watching this game with intent tonight.
     
  3. ckparrothead

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    Reminds me of a more accurate (and experienced) version of Mike Kafka, who I liked a lot last year.
     
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    I've watched him two or three ( don't remember ) times before this game. This should be interesting. He's a very impressive quarterback prospect IMO.
     
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    More of the same from Devlin.

    EDIT: That's meant as a compliment.
     
  7. ckparrothead

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    Boomer Esiason on the QB Sneak he is not.
     
  8. KB21

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    Look at his eyes when he is in his drop. He's reading the entire field on his drop, and the ball is typically out when that back foot hits whether it is a 3 step or 5 step drop. He's gone up to his OL on a couple of occasions. I wonder if he is setting the protection there.
     
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    He runs the zone read well though.
     
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    Very nice!
     
  12. ckparrothead

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    Just got murdered there on that zone-read! He's like "I don't have the ball!!"
     
  13. Boomer

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    Now that was a strike.
     
  14. ckparrothead

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    Beautiful pre-snap read on that one, wouldn't be surprised if he checked out of a run into a pass to get into that throw to the slot-left receiver, saw the open space, checked to a speed out.

    (Oh and the throw over the middle that you're talking about was also really nice, liked the footwork operating within the pocket, stepping up)
     
  15. ckparrothead

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    Incidentally I don't believe he's thrown an incompletion yet, has he? Get used to that. He doesn't throw very many balls that go uncatchable.
     
  16. Boomer

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    This is my first time seeing him and bearing in mind i'm watching on a stream. He doesn't seem very tall. Doesn't have a great body. He's got that odd release point. Very quick eyes, quick head, diagnoses quickly and strikes with that quick release.....I wonder whether that's forced by the system? He takes the checkdown very quickly, very smoothly, but he barely lets his WR's get into their routes before he's checking off. Loved that throw over the LB and in stride at around the 20 yard marker. Had some juice. Ball comes out fairly low. Great hands/ball fakes/play fakes. Really good at those. As Keith says, he does a fair bit of walking up and down - is he changing protection? With that ball coming out so quickly and with him seeming very hurried at times, can he maintain accuracy down the field?

    Impressed so far though. That strike over the middle was the critical ball for me so far as it showed good technique, good look off and in stride accuracy with some touch over the LB.
     
  17. alen1

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    His ball placement, as I've seen in other games, is still impressive to me.
     
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    I don't think he's exceptionally tall but I don't think he's short either. At worst, I think he's slightly over 6'2".
     
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  19. ckparrothead

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    A better Tight End and that's a TOUCHDOWN. He threw him open, that should have been a super sweet highlight reel play.

    Still hasn't thrown an off-target ball. I'm saying we get all the way to the 3rd quarter before he throws one.
     
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    This is the first time ive seen this kid, but I like what ive seen a lot. that incompletion in the endzone was beautiful touch and anticipation putting it somewhere where his guy was the only one that could get it. not sure if it was designed throw or not, i dont think so. makes it that much more impressive.
     
  21. Boomer

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    Just a bit hard to truly see on a stream.

    That was a terrific ball on 3rd down to the TE.
     
  22. alen1

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    Also, from all I know, the offense is a quick pass game out of spread no huddle.

    EDIT: I know that reads as a "duh" statement but that's how they have built their offense. It's the same thing they do out in Iowa Wesleyan.
     
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    Same thing I thought, on the first comment.
     
  24. Nappy Roots

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    thats the phrase I was looking for, he threw him open. great play by Pat there.
     
  25. ckparrothead

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    The height and body isn't a bother to me.

    He's shown a couple of critical things to me so far. Disciplined with his progressions, disciplined with his eyes. That ball over the middle was nice but there was a throw on the speed out to the slot-left WR that was just as impressive because he read the defense pre-snap and checked into the play, because he saw what I saw prior to the snap, the spacing and coverage on the left side gave him the easy completion on the speed out.

    And that TD he threw was great, very accurate and creative, he threw the guy open, had great timing for the guy to break vertically up the field. He can't help it that particular player isn't very good.

    You do want a guy that has a feeling pre-snap what is going to happen, but he's disciplined and goes through his reads regardless, in case anything in the defense surprises him.
     
  26. Boomer

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    Get that ball up
     
  27. ckparrothead

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    Hard to fault a guy for taking what a defense gives him to the point of being extremely effective. He sees a lot of umbrella coverage, takes the underneath.
     
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    There's another show-stopper throw.
     
  29. Boomer

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    The way he works his progressions is very, very impressive.

    Chris, my concern with the height thing is that his ball does come out low.
     
  30. Boomer

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    Big ole' number 30's a runnin' fool.
     
  31. ckparrothead

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    I disagree. To me the ball comes out unusually high because of his high release point.
     
  32. alen1

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    I'm with you. I'm just saying, that's how their offense is designed, though it doesn't bother me when I evaluate him. He's an impressive prospect. A few other things to keep in mind, that I gathered from clinic notes. People can make their own opinion of this, I've already got mine.

    1. Hofher, the OC, says he likes wider line splits.
    2. Hofher DOES give Devlin checks. I know someone mentioned it here earlier in this thread and its true; Devlin does have the ability to check off plays.
    3. Hofher does some things that the Colts coaches do with his offense. He's talked about it before.
     
  33. ckparrothead

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    Incidentally, still hasn't thrown an uncatchable ball.
     
  34. Boomer

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    That felt like a force.
     
  35. ckparrothead

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    Oh man that's the 2nd near-TD he's thrown.
     
  36. Boomer

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    Sorry, let me quantify. It does come out high, but he will deliver it downwards if that makes sense. When the balls get to the receivers, on occasion, they're lower than your average bear.
     
  37. padre31

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    Well, he looks like he short arms the ball to me, ball up by his ear, out it comes.

    I'd bet he has one of the quickest releases of the major prospects
     
  38. ckparrothead

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    A force-out? Definitely but the NFL doesn't call that anymore. Actually REALLY good play by the defender to move him that much mid-air to get him completely out of bounds.

    To me Devlin's accuracy is All-for-All with 2 TDs so far.
     
  39. ckparrothead

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    I don't mind that. His ball location is consistently good to very good because he's a short pass specialist. The high release point, active feet, and ball location are what allows him to be a short ball specialist.
     
  40. Boomer

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    I think I missed a play typing. He tried to fit one in over the middle to white boy #35. Felt like he tried to force it in. Tight area, tight coverage, fastball.
     

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