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La Canfora: Dan Quinn could replace Philbin

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by FinSane, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Saw this on Bleacher Report and Twitter:

     
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  2. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Yes please.
     
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  3. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Club Member

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    Seattle's DC Dan Quinn replacing Philbin?

    Currently just speculation right now... but DAMN. PLEASE make that happen...

     
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  4. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Started this thread already :)
     
  5. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's almost certainly not true, but I'd be pretty happy if it were.
     
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  6. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I stated earlier I would like Quinn, Would be interesting to see if it happens.
     
  7. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Apparently he wants the Falcons job. If he was to consider us over ATL, I think he goes to ATL, presumably (on my part) because he can pick his own staff, aside from everything else . If he was to replace Philbin here I'm sure it would be under the condition he retains Lazor as per Ross' preference for offensive continuity.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/13/report-dan-quinn-wants-falcons-job/

    Also, there's a lot of competition out there.
     
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  8. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    If this happens I'd be estatic. Which means it's not going to happen.
     
  9. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Falcons might not wait?
     
  10. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    He'll probably use us as leverage like most in the NFL do.
     
  11. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral Staff Member

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    merely speculation by JLC.
     
  12. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

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    Not sure if it's that the rumored Philbin extension just hasn't been signed, or if it hasn't been formally offered. The Tannenbaum/Quinn thing could be a reason for why it hasn't been formally offered (if that's the case).

    Maybe Ross had second thoughts about keeping Philbin but doesn't want it to look like he is flip flopping. So he hires Tannenbaum to be in charge of non-talent/roster issues and says he is leaving football decisions to the football people. Tannenbaum then fires Philbin and hires Quinn. It gives Ross a little cover from looking like a two-faced flip flopper.


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  13. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    As much as I agree Philbin should have been fired after the Jets game fiasco, I think we have to look at the ramifications of what would happen if Ross fired Philbin after assuring him he would be back. Ross is already an idiot boob of an NFL owner. Fire your coach after telling him he's coming back and he's also going to be viewed as a complete dick idiot boob of an owner. He's already the guy who flirted with a coach before firing the incumbent. Good luck finding a coach next time around if Quinn or whoever he replaced Philbin with didn't work out. Bottom line is Ross shot this team right in the ****ing foot when he made an emotional decision about Philbin following a last minute win against an awful team. No way out of that boobery now.
     
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  14. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Every move Ross makes have severe blowback repercussions. He can't make a smart move to save his life.
     
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  15. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    I think its the typical speculation you get from commentarists these days.They see Tannenbaum/Quinn relationship and the formers association with the Dolphins and try to make something out of it .
    It should not be taken seriously IMO.
     
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  16. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    Its a reasonable scenario but it still smacks of wishfull thinking.:pointlol:
     
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  17. Disgustipate

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    I'm not sure why Dan Quinn deserves to be a head coaching prospect, frankly.

    He's got two years running an ultra-talented Seahawks defense where he essentially executed Pete Carroll's scheme, and two years as an Assistant Head Coach.
     
  18. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    He was solid as a DL coach here and elsewhere. I'd take a flyer on him. I'm more of a fan of defensive coaches as HC candidates.
     
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  19. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I thought Tannenbaum did not have the authority to fire Philbin.
     
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  20. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

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    Not sure I agree. If he comes out and says that he has great respect and admiration for Philbin and made a human, emotional decision that he was going to keep him he looks like a decent guy. He then says that he realized, however, that he shouldn't be making football decisions based on his personal feelings or emotions, which most fans and commentators will respect and agree with. So he hired a football guy (Tannenbaum) to make the executive football decisions. People's views of this will depend on their views of Tannenbaum but few would argue with the concept from a management perspective. Tannenbaum then makes the executive football decision that he thinks is best for the team. Ross says he hates to see Joe go and that Joe is a good man, but that Ross realizes that he has to stay out of the football decisions.

    Overall, I think Ross comes out of that appearing to be a changed man and looking pretty good. Certainly no worse than he does now.


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  21. Fineas

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    I'm not sure any of us really know as so many conflicting things have been said and reported. But clearly, with Ross' OK, Philbin can be fired. Maybe Ross does technically have to be the hatchet man but he can make it look like it is because of the advice/recommendations of his football advisors, most notably Tannenbaum.


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  22. jw3102

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    While I don't expect Philbin to be fired and replaced by Quinn. His experience as a play caller for the defense of the Seahawks is certainly more than Philbin had when he was hired to be the head coach of the Dolphins.

    Philbin was the OC of the Packers in name only. While he did help implement the offensive game plan during the week, he never called plays during the game. That was the responsibity of the Packers head coach.
     
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  23. Fineas

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    I don't think you make head coaching decisions based on a resume or tenure (or even success) as a coordinator. Quinn clearly has been in the league long enough, including positions of significant responsibility, to presumably know how a team should be run and do the things a HC needs to do. Whether he'll actually be good at it remains to be seen, but I see no reason to characterize him as unqualified. Even just based on resume, he's certainly as qualified as Mike Tomlin, Bill Cowher, and Don Shula. Those guys turned out OK.


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  24. Alex13

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    he is shooting it down now..

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  25. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Of course.

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  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    Play calling and head coaching are two different skill sets.
     
  27. brandon27

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    Interesting.

    Probably just alot of speculation by JLC because of the Quinn/Tannenbaum former connection.

    I'd hope for it to happen though, simply because I want Philbin out of here ASAP now that he's once again the worst HC in the division with the Bills/Jets jobs filled.
     
  28. ILDolPhan

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    Ha, so he's essentially shooting down his own "report" or speculation from earlier...? That's nice.
     
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  29. CaribPhin

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    Philbin's contract includes language that he answers only to Ross. The only way the VP of Football Operations could fire Philbin is under a new contract or else Philbin will have a case for wrongful termination. Ross can't get out of this with his face intact. It wouldn't make sense to extend Philbin to allow Tannenbaum to fire him because then among the myriad of things wrong with that, there's going to be the perception of Ross being a snake or if the media is sincerely stupid, they'll paint it as organizational discord between Ross and Tannenbaum. The only ways Ross can get out of this is if he fires Philbin due to a previously unknown scandal or on the advice of players AND advisers who are then willing to back that firing up in the media. The second a single player or adviser either says no comment or goes against there being a bad air around Philbin remaining the HC, then the house of cards would fall.

    Simply put, Joe Philbin is the head coach of your 2015-16 Miami Dolphins and as much as I hate that fact, there's nothing we can do about it.

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  30. Stringer Bell

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    Ross could very easily fire Philbin today if he chooses to. Don't see how that would be wrongful termination. Ross could literally say he fired Philbin based on Tannenbaum's recommendation, and that still would be fine.
     
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  31. Georgia Fin

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    Amazing how folks discredit him all the time and then want to believe the rest of the time.
     
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  33. Ohio Fanatic

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    I really don't care about down the road ramifications. You make decisions based on the "now". If Quinn can advance your NFL team to the next level, you pull the trigger regardless of the consequences. building a winning atmosphere can solve a lot of the problems we've been rehashing. If Quinn didn't pan out, I just don't see how it can be worse than it currently is.
     
  34. PhinsRDbest

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    He does have Ross' ear though.



    And that's a big ear.

    I think if Tannebaum tells Ross that Philbin needs to go, he's gone.
     
  35. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I agree that Philbin should be fired. However I will say this. His experience in Green Bay, IMO, was perfect for head coaching. In fact, Miami is a well run organization. Philibin has done a good job in setting up how the team works and running practices.

    He just sucks at being the leader of men, calling time outs and keeping in touch with his players.

    I think the problem with hiring head coaches is that you never know if they are going to do a good job in their new situation. There have been plenty of examples of all cases from new coaches to successful retreads failing miserably.
     
  36. Bpk

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    Are we on board the Ross is a moron train yet, folks? lol.

    Hey, maybe Tannenbaum is able to be less bad if he has enough control.

    What scares me is if he pushes for FA signings that end up being mistakes. That was much of his undoing in NY.
     
  37. GISH

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    I'm so on the fence about Philbin. We were literally a few plays from 11 or 12 wins. You gotta think when you're that close you can give a guy another chance to improve. With another solid offseason from Hickey, we can have a better team from a talent perspective. You've got a QB and coach who are on the verge of something, give them another chance. It's not like we are the Redskins looking like dog crap with RG3. Another year of inconsistency will be enough for me, but I think there is still room for this team to grow to a top 4 AFC team next year.
     
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  38. ckparrothead

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    I'm a little uneasy about Dan Quinn so I'm actually a little glad La Canfora's speculation has been refuted. I don't like Joe Philbin but I don't want to be saddled for three more years with another bad coach.

    Of course, maybe Quinn is actually a good coach. Who knows.
     
  39. FinSane

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    I'd bet he coaches a team to the playoffs before Philbin does.
     
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  40. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    i would like this to happen but i have 0 faith in ross.
     

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