So your position is that the NY Giants were not a good team, despite the fact that they made and won the SB??
No, I am debating the point I was making. You keep trying to muddy the water. If the Dolphins can't beat a team with one win, they're not an elite team. That's the point of contention. Your efforts to confuse it with other crap show the weakness of your own position and your willingness to run away from it. Not that I blame you, because it's not a very smart position.
