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Kris Jenkins considering retirement??

Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by finyank13, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I wonder what his level of desire and commitment is going to be this year?? One thing about Rex, the guy knows how to get players to believe in him...

    Jets NT Kris Jenkins revealed that he considered retiring after tearing his ACL early last winter.

    Postponing his broadcasting career, the 31-year-old ultimately decided to give it a go for "at least one more year." "The biggest thing was Rex (Ryan)," he says. "If it had been another coach, it probably would've been my last year." Jenkins admits he's in "the twilight of my career," but recovered ahead of schedule and still has plenty of run-stopping ability left in the tank.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sports/football/20jenkins.html?_r=3&ref=football
     
  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    Ineffective at best this year. He won't last the season without getting injured again. But their defense will still be good without him.
     
  3. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    He considered it but did not go through with it.

    He's a beast. I wish we had him at nose tackle.
     
  4. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    No reason to believe he can't still have a great year.

    JT pondered retirement prior to the 2006 season. He won DPOY that year.

    When you're a vet in the midst of a tough rehab, it's natural to ponder whether you can still do it and whether you want to go thru it.
     
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  5. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    With his weight and the injury to his knee, I wonder how mobile he will be this season. His best days are behind him for sure. I get the feeling that tough interior linemen will finally be able to plant and drive him off the ball. Once the wheels come off, it is the beginning of the end.
     
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He elevate's that defense tremendously, my hope is two fold, one, His explosiveness has to take a hit with that acl injury, 2, I hope the retirement demon haunts his dreams..

    Plus I think he has 1 foot out the door into a broadcasting career, he's really funny and charasmatic, and he know's it...

    Without Kris Jenkin's the jets defense is overrated.
     
  7. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Brother, didnt the Jets defense finish first in the league without Kris Jenkins?
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The most overrated #1 NFL defense ever...lol..

    They just don't scare me without Jenkins...Their good because of Revis.

    The impact that he has on that defense is anything but overrated, he makes the rest of the players play on an uneven playing field because of his range and the fact that qb's are working away from him.

    so to me, Revis is that good, not the defense.....I like how we match up with them though, without Jenkins, so I hope the demons get the best of him.

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  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    That's an interesting way to look at it. Personally, I don't like matching up with Rex Ryan. I think he's a helluva defensive mind, with or without Jenkins.
     
  10. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Problem is Alen, in 09 it was Scheme, RR really was sharp in designing blitzes and coverages, fast forward to 10, and they still don't have a passrusher on the order of Suggs, they needed someone like that because the Scheme will be solved and they don't have the athletes to simply outperform Offensive adjustments that will most certainly happen.

    RR is going to try and make do with Taylor, and we all watched him last season, many many times he was easily neutralized via single blocking, Matt Light pretty much owned him.

    In fact, outside of the Bills game, the first Bills game, Taylor was not a very good passrusher in 09, he still has some range, but that athletic explosion was just not there anymore.

    Without that constant edge rushing threat who can split double teams the Colts blueprint will be seen all around the league to counter RR's "illusion of pressure".
     
  11. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    They'll be fine. Scheme or not, you still need quality athletes to make the scheme work IMO. People don't give Rex Ryan enough credit. He may be a loud mouth and arrogant but he can coach defense better than anyone in this league.
     
  12. anlgp

    anlgp ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

    :praying: please retire.

    Alen, Ryan may very well be the best defensive coach now that JJ is dead and Kiffin is in college, but would you agree with the argument that a team can't be one dimensional and win a super bowl?
     
  13. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I think its tough to do but if you look at the Ravens team that won the Super Bowl, they were about as one dimensional as you can get. They mostly ran the ball and just played tough defense. Jamal Lewis and Priest Holmes had nearly 2000 yards combined.
     
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  14. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hmm, I see you may not have heard of the "Gritz Blitz"?

    Anywho, they had what 23 sacks last season? The only passrusher they picked up was Taylor, and they started all Veterans, realistically, where will their sacks come from?

    Granted sacks are not the be all end all, TFL's, pressures, Qb hits and hurries count as well, however I've looked at their personnel and most of the starters are veterans, their upside is..now..and yet they had problems putting the Qb on the ground.
     
  15. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I'm not concerned about their pass rush. Quarterback hits and hurries, which you note, are underrated statistics. I would bet that they were near the top in those two categories.

    I remember Belichick once said something like "Sacks get all the love but they are a little overrated. Pressures and hits are nearly as important."

    EDIT: I was a bit off with the quote. Read it below.
     
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  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Sparano said pretty much the same thing, the odd issue is, it is hard to find TFL stats, PFF has hits and pressures but not an overall ranking.

    How about completions allowed per game?

    http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-completions-per-game

    Oddly enough the Jest were #2, Dphins..#3..

    Jets:

    Sacks 41/hits 56/ pressures 179

    Dolphins

    46/46/126

    Oddly enough for the Jets, their numbers were similar to 08's however they did have 50 more pressures, or 3 more per game..
     
  18. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I don't think completions is a fair assessment of the pressures.
     
  19. padre31

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    Why not?

    I'm curious.
     
  20. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Because a quarterback may have thrown the ball at the last second and somehow completed it.
     
  21. padre31

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    What would make that an unfair measurement?
     
  22. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    If you're grading by completions allowed and you get to the quarterback but he just throws it up, like Favre does, and miraculously completes it, how is that fair to the pass rushers when grading them?
     
  23. padre31

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    I'd say that would be totally fair, as whether it is a miracle reception, or a beautiful pass, it is still a completion.
     
  24. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Or it could have been a WR screen where is irrelevant. I agree with you.
     
  25. Sethdaddy8

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    he is a beacon of light and class amidst that crap filled organization. there were times last year, he was outspokenly embarrassed to be a part of that organization and all the **** talking.
     
  26. finyank13

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    That Ravens team was pretty much one demensional...
     
  27. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    wow, after watching Jenkins on NFL total access, im pretty certain he hates the Jets and especially their fans.
     
  28. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I missed the segment. What gave you that impression?
     
  29. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    but he didn´t tear his knee the year before, i really doubt he will be the kris jenkins we all know, at least not on a regular basis, with all this weight on his balky knees, i believe he won´t make it through the whole season
     
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  32. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    He sent a clear cut message to Jet fans on NFLTA saying no matter if we win or lose we are trying to win a SB and the fans will be happy if they win and will bash them hard if they lose. He said either way the fans get what they want. He was talking directly to them. I have to admit Jenkins is pretty straight forward in the interview although he calls himself a jokester. He was dead serious when addressing their fans. It was a good interview.
     
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