Kirwin: Dolphins in prime position to make big splash in draft.
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CANEPHINSforum_veteranOPGet it....Dolphins...splash. :lol:
Miami has 11 picks in the draft with five of them in the top 82 (Nos. 12,42,54,77,82)and just under 10 million in salary cap space. GM Jeff Ireland can still sign a quality veteran or two, trade for a player like Brandon Albert if he cares to or simply use his draft picks to move up in the draft and get the players he wants.
For example, he could package his 12th overall pick with pick No. 42 and possibly get up as high as No. 5 or No. 6. Ireland could take picks No. 42 and No. 54 and package them up and get back into the first round in the low twenties. He could take his two third round picks and sell them for another spot in the second round.
Obviously the Dolphins could stay put and take five players. Finally, the Dolphin brass could sell off a few picks for better picks in the 2014 draft if they were so inclined. The possibilities are endless.
I think it is realistic to believe Miami is going to come out of this draft with at least four starters and set up for 8-10 draft picks in 2014.
If Miami can parlay their draft opportunities into an offensive tackle, a cornerback, someone who can rush the passer, a safety and a running back, they will be ready to make some noise in 2013. I would really like to see them grab DJ Fluker, a right tackle from Alabama, in the first round; or move up for Lane Johnson, a cornerback like Johnathan Banks; or his teammate Darius Slay, a pass rusher like Cornellius Carradine; or Alex Okafor, a safety like DJ Swearinger; or Phillip Thomas and a running back like Stepfan Taylor. It is possible the Miami Dolphins could hit on all of these guys with the picks they have in 2013
Fin Dforum_veteranI don't know. Part of thinks if we move up from 12, it may be an attempt to nab Star and not a OT. Randy Starks is clearly disgruntled.
CANEPHINSforum_veteranThere is not really a wrong move that can be made here, unless we trade up and give away to much.
We can select an OT and it wouldn't be a wrong pick. We can select a CB and it wouldn't be wrong. We can take a DT or DE and there is nothing wrong with that either. We could take a WR and there is a case to be made for that. Point is that we are in a great position to get an impact player or to trade down, get more picks and still fill all the needs with starters. This draft is deep enough in our positions of need that we can get what we want out of it at our price.
Larry Littlesubscriber"Fin D wrote:
I don't know. Part of thinks if we move up from 12, it may be an attempt to nab Star and not a OT. Randy Starks is clearly disgruntled.
He just wants a multi-yer deal. If that happens, he'll be gruntled again. :shifty:
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Fin Dforum_veteran"Larry Little wrote:
He just wants a multi-yer deal. If that happens, he'll be gruntled again. :shifty:
But then we have Star and Starks....win-win.
RickyBobbyNew Member"Fin D wrote:
I don't know. Part of thinks if we move up from 12, it may be an attempt to nab Star and not a OT. Randy Starks is clearly disgruntled.
Think Starks is upset, why?
Fin Dforum_veteran"RickyBobby wrote:
Think Starks is upset, why?
Franchised and was the only no-show at workouts.
CANEPHINSforum_veteranHe did say he was going to show up to the other camps and workouts, but still a no-show is a no-show and can be taken as such.
GridIronKing34forum_veteran"Fin D wrote:
Franchised and was the only no-show at workouts.
Most franchised players skip voluntary workouts to seek a long-term deal... he's probably not upset, just doing business.
seabass0795New MemberIt's a longshot, but hopefully what the dolphins do is trade up and grab Dee Milliner
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padre31luxury_boxTBH, SF has so many picks they can trade up or out and not really effect their roster.
Not So Fastforum_veteran"Fin D wrote:
Franchised and was the only no-show at workouts.
That's normal for someone who doesn't have a multi-year, guaranteed money contract. No player is going to get risk getting injured and have his value go way down.
"seabass0795 wrote:
It's a longshot, but hopefully what the dolphins do is trade up and grab Dee Milliner
From what I'm hearing you're the most likely to be correct :)
Larry Littlesubscriber"GridIronKing34 wrote:
Most franchised players skip voluntary workouts to seek a long-term deal... he's probably not upset, just doing business.
It's also an injury concern. If the guy gets hurt now, he could lose millions.
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Larry Littlesubscriber"seabass0795 wrote:
It's a longshot, but hopefully what the dolphins do is trade up and grab Dee Milliner
I don't see it as a longshot. He'd be a very legitimate target for the Phins. In fact, if they do trade up (into the top-10), I'd hope it was for Milliner or Dion Jordan. I still think if they trade up, it'll be from 42 back into the first.
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CANEPHINSforum_veteran"seabass0795 wrote:
It's a longshot, but hopefully what the dolphins do is trade up and grab Dee Milliner
That is what I have been saying all along. I hope that is the pick and we do move up to get him. Milliner, imo, has to be our first target and priority.
Paul 13moderator"Fin D wrote:
But then we have Star and Starks....win-win.
in stark contrast.
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Alex13subscriber"padre31 wrote:
TBH, SF has so many picks they can trade up or out and not really effect their roster.
which has absolutely nothing to do with miami
MrCleansubscriber"Ohio Fanatic wrote:
draft can not come soon enough
We are now entering the slowest 7 day period of any year. It's like the last 7 days before Xmas when you were a kid.
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MrCleansubscriber"Fin D wrote:
I don't know. Part of thinks if we move up from 12, it may be an attempt to nab Star and not a OT. Randy Starks is clearly disgruntled.
I don't recall what it was, but it seems like someone gave a viable reason why Starks was a no show, other than being disgruntled. I cannot recall what it was though. Maybe my memory is failing, I am quite elderly now. He has signed his Franchise tender right? So he is now guaranteed more money for the next season than most of us will make in a lifetime. Poor guy anyway. :)
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Stitchesluxury_boxStarks can't be terribly disgruntled because he still went to the team function involving go karts and kids. I'm sure any misgivings he has are only related to the long term contract he wants, not his feelings about the team.
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Sceetoforum_veteranIf they do intend to go T with the first, I would like them to stay put and get Fluker. He can be a great right tackle. He's an awesome run blocker. He would do wonders for Miller. I can imagine Miller running off tackle stuff off of Fluker. Also teams have good rushers coming from that side as well. If Martin can get stronger and continue to progress, that could be a great OL. It's doubtful, but they may even be able to get Johnson at 12. However, with San Diego in front of us and their big need for a LT, they would probably take him. At least we may have to only jump up one spot. With that said, I would stay put a get Fluker if Tackle is the way they want to go.
Fin Dforum_veteran"Stitches wrote:
Starks can't be terribly disgruntled because he still went to the team function involving go karts and kids. I'm sure any misgivings he has are only related to the long term contract he wants, not his feelings about the team.
Yeah...but go-karts. Who turns down go-karts?
MrCleansubscriber"Sceeto wrote:
If they do intend to go T with the first, I would like them to stay put and get Fluker. He can be a great right tackle. He's an awesome run blocker. He would do wonders for Miller. I can imagine Miller running off tackle stuff off of Fluker. Also teams have good rushers coming from that side as well. If Martin can get stronger and continue to progress, that could be a great OL. It's doubtful, but they may even be able to get Johnson at 12. However, with San Diego in front of us and their big need for a LT, they would probably take him. At least we may have to only jump up one spot. With that said, I would stay put a get Fluker if Tackle is the way they want to go.
Johnson won't get to pick 11 for SD. The Cards will take him. They may even swap places with the Browns to ensure getting him. Give up a 3rd or 4th to go from 7 to 6, so no other team can leapfrog them.
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