Keyshawn Johnson weighs in on Ted Ginn Jr.

If you search for his highlight tape on Youtube, the thing you notice in those Jets and Bills games he played last year was that he was playing with confidence. Watch him take a few big hits and then get up and celebrate or talk smack.

He is a completely different player in those highlights than we saw this year. If he can get that back he can be exactly what Keyshawn said - a guy that makes sense. Not a #1 type guy - but a guy that can make plays and fits a role on the team.

And his salary is still relatively when you consider it is on par with Charlie Anderson and Jason Allen.

Hard to argue with what Keyshawn said... I agree with him.

Seems like everyone is talking about Ted Ginn Jr.

Meh, I dont want him to play with arrogance.... I just want him to work his *** off, get his head right, and play with solid confidence.

Ginn is who Ginn is.

You can't make a guy play arrogant when its not in his nature. And I don't think you have to play that way to be good. Plenty of guys don't act like jerks and still play well.

Whats the old saying, when you score a TD act like you have been there before.

I think this league has too much arrogant players as key says.

I feel badly for Ted Ginn. The only other player I felt that for was Sammie Smith. "Fans" have a tendency to look for their expectations, regardless of how realistic they may be.

They, on occasion, forget that players are also human, and have feelings just like the rest of us.

How well would we all preform, in our own jobs, if everyone was crucifying us based on their expectations? I am surprised at how well Ted has held up.

A little food for thought.

Why feel sorry for him when he's making millions?

I agree with NJfinsfans, Ginn isn't the type to play with arrogance. He's more like LT than say Desean Jackson.

i say we all pitch in and buy teddy one of these to help toughen him up

swing away teddy, swing away.

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Ginn is who Ginn is.

You can't make a guy play arrogant when its not in his nature. And I don't think you have to play that way to be good. Plenty of guys don't act like jerks and still play well.

Whats the old saying, when you score a TD act like you have been there before.

I think this league has too much arrogant players as key says.

How many here have played sports, FB, BB, Hoops, etc, in grade school, HS, or above?

Any recall being boo'ed, or your home-town fans saying you sucked? If so, any recall overcoming that?

"PhiNomina wrote:

If you search for his highlight tape on Youtube, the thing you notice in those Jets and Bills games he played last year was that he was playing with confidence. Watch him take a few big hits and then get up and celebrate or talk smack.

It's hard to really get that arrogant streak when you get thrown to once or twice a game. I'm not saying that he deserved more passes but it must be hard to keep that swagger when you become an afterthought in the offense.

"Ashraf wrote:

Why feel sorry for him when he's making millions?

I agree with NJfinsfans, Ginn isn't the type to play with arrogance. He's more like LT than say Desean Jackson.

Think the money makes Ginn any less human?

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Ginn is who Ginn is.

You can't make a guy play arrogant when its not in his nature. And I don't think you have to play that way to be good. Plenty of guys don't act like jerks and still play well.

Whats the old saying, when you score a TD act like you have been there before.

I think this league has too much arrogant players as key says.

Tori Holt, Marvin Harrison, John Stallworth, Isaac Bruce, Barry Sanders......
Just sayin...
All quiet guys that weren't the most Aggresive.
I am one of the biggest Ginn Bashers here, but I do respect him as a person....probably more than I ever did MeShawn actually.

One of the few things I actually like about Ginn is the fact he's not like MeShawn....

Ginn needs more than simple arrogance and swagger .... i'd settle for a heart ....

I guess I think he should have more of that swagger that Keyshawn speaks about, but not to the extremes that a lot of people make it out to be. Just because you have that type of swagger, doesn't mean you have to be a jackass too...

"azfinfanmang wrote:

Tori Holt, Marvin Harrison, John Stallworth, Isaac Bruce, Barry Sanders......
Just sayin...
All quiet guys that weren't the most Aggresive.
I am one of the biggest Ginn Bashers here, but I do respect him as a person....probably more than I ever did MeShawn actually.

MeShawn was a Jet. Enough said. :up:

"azfinfanmang wrote:

Tori Holt, Marvin Harrison, John Stallworth, Isaac Bruce, Barry Sanders......
Just sayin...
All quiet guys that weren't the most Aggresive.
I am one of the biggest Ginn Bashers here, but I do respect him as a person....probably more than I ever did MeShawn actually.

sanders said alot, usually by running over a defender or making him look like a jack ass.....

"PHINANALYST wrote:

Ginn needs more than simple arrogance and swagger .... i'd settle for a heart ....

:confused2:

Ted ginns reputation in this league is out...bully him and hes toast, rough him up at the los and he cant get off...his ass better be in our traning facility today doing squats til he pukes, cause 2maro's deadlift day..lol

Its open season on Ted Ginn for every former NFL player apprently.

"unluckyluciano wrote:

sanders said alot, usually by running over a defender or making him look like a jack ass.....

I don't remember him doing the former too much, but the latter on every play :lol:
I remember how Howie Long said he defended Barry:
"As soon as the ball is snapped, just stand still right where you are, sooner or later Barry will run to that spot".
He likened it to catching the Tasmanian Devil.

"I'm sorry Dorothy, giving a Tin Man a heart is one thing, making Ted Ginn stay in bounds is just too much to ask, even from a Wizard"

Cut him. He's garbage.

I don't think he needs to be arrogant. I think he needs that quiet confidence that he can be a good player in this league and go out there and do it. Now I know he hasn't done that as of late, but if the Dolphins don't cut or trade him, Ginn needs to see it as another possible opportunity to be that good and productive player that we need.