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Joey Porter called it

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Trowa, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    I defended Joey Porter all week and when it mattered he defended himself by playing lights out all game. Props to Joey and if he decides to talk about the Chargers next week I will defend him again.
     
  2. Bumrush

    Bumrush Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Joey has EARNED the right to speak. I agree. This week the only talking he should have done was his stellar performance on the field.
     
  3. NYFinFan

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    I really do hope this is a sign of things to come from him. He showed up nicely in this game and it was great to see. If he can lead this defense this season can turn out pretty good.
     
  4. like2god

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    No offense, but I'm curious what the guarantee/win ratio actually is.

    With all of the yapping that he does, he was bound to get a hit sooner or later.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I would prefer he played like he played without the talking, i think he did it for the right reasons, i think he did it to get us out of a bad rhythm, he took resposibility for the team and a huge risk...he delivered and is now the unquestioned leader...exactly what he wanted and exactly the position he prides himself in being in. He needs tp be the leader to play his game at the highest level.

    Now i wish he can do it without talkin before the game.
     
  6. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No offense but I personally don't care too much about the ratio. It shows me he cares. He wants to win badly. He's about the only person on this team that knows how to win really. He cares enough to open his mouth (yes I know it rubs some the wrong way) and you can tell he cares enough when he doesn't win that it hurts him deeply.

    That's all fine with me. You know how TV shows some players laughing and giggling or joking around when their team is losing? Can you imagine Joey doing that? Id' think hed want to kick his dogs if he's losing (not literally, figuratively!)
     
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  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just saw his post game with wendy nix......damn it joey...he had a chance to be humble and did'nt.....he said 'I was just stating the facts, he is'nt tom brady and today he came out and proved it'

    You guys may not think much but it rubbed me the wrong way...he could of praised the defense, stupid...karma is a mother fuc@#r
     
  8. opfinistic

    opfinistic Braaaaains!

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    He put his money where his mouth is, finally.
     
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  9. azfinfanmang

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    Have you ever read the book "The boy who cried Wolf"?

    Might want to check it out, lots of life's lessons in there :up:
     
  10. njfinfan

    njfinfan The First Lady

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    Joey backed it up - plain and simple. This is what I expected out of him last season. The best thing about this win was the way we dominated on both sides of the ball. Everyone is talking about it up here. Heck, the guy across from me is a Jets fan. I've lived in this house almost 3 years and he's never done anything but glare at me. Yesterday, when I got home from the Sports Zone he was on his front step and he looked at me, got up and actually walked across the street to my house, shook my hand and said "incredible game by Miami. Congrats." What a great day to be a Dolphin fan up here in the beautiful Northeast.
     
  11. like2god

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    Would you still feel the same way if Porter played on the Pats and the results yesterday were different? What if Rodney Harrison was the one talking the week leading up to the game and guaranteeing a Pats win? I don't doubt that a guy like Harrison wants to win badly too, but would his words be seen as a passionate player who just wants to win or would it be seen as a big mouth running his yap?

    When we signed Joey I was pumped that we would finally have an emotional leader, someone to give the team a boost in the locker room and out on the field. But he's made these predictions before and has made disparaging comments about other players (Winslow) and that isn't what a leader does IMO, that's what loudmouth does.

    As a leader, I expect a player to hold himself to a certain standard and stay away from personal insults. IMO Joey is just a yapper, he's a blind squirrel who finally found a nut. :wink2:
     
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  12. njfinfan

    njfinfan The First Lady

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    I agree with Randy Moss when he said "Joey was just being Joey." Kinda like Manny being Manny. I got a kick when I just heard the announcers of the game say "If Joey Porter got paid by the word, he'd be a very wealthy man." Funny stuff.
     
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  13. Larry Little

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    I don't think that comment was directed at Matt Cassel. It was directed at the media, who took his honest but basically meaningless comment before the game, and turned it into Joey 'guaranteeing' a victory against the Patriots... which he absolutely did not do.

    If I were Porter, I'd be pissed at the media... and I'd defend myself. That's the way I see it, anyhow.
     
  14. like2god

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    Yeah, but Manny is a totally self-absorbed psycho. :wink2:
     
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  15. njfinfan

    njfinfan The First Lady

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    :lol:
     
  16. jdang307

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    I don't let other teams get to me, so no I wouldn't feel different. When he was with Pittsburgh I didn't bat an eye.

    That stuff doesn't bother me. Celebrations in the EZ don't either. His predictions isn't reckless or absurd. He's not sending a bottle of tums to the other locker room. he's putting it out there for his teammates.

    I still really don't get this uproar. His talking at this point should be a sidenote. he's been talking forever. It should be a one post thread really, not even a thread, more like a footnote to another thread that says, "oh btw. Joey talked yet again today" :yes:

    He's disparaged players before, not sure why you didn't expect that when he got here. He is what he is, and he isn't going to change. I can't hate him for being passionate. At the end of the day, all we can really hope from each player is that they give it their all, and I have no doubt Joey would give anything but that.

    But that's me. Different strokes brudda, different strokes! :knucks:
     
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  17. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

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    Well you're in the minority, I've seen fans from pretty much every team in the 4 major sports get upset when a rival player says/does the exact same thing they cheer their players for. I don't understand the 2 sets of rules that some fans have, one for the home team and one for the opposition. I think all players should be held accontable for their actions/words equally. :confused:

    I didn't really pay much attention to Joey Porter's mouth when he was in Pitt, I was more interested in his play. I saw the same youtube clip that we all saw of him getting his teammates pumped in the locker room and figured that he was the type of vocal leader that this team needed, then I heard the crap that he's been saying for over a year and realized that he's a watered down version of a Chad Johnson or Terrell Owens. I should have listened to my brother (Steelers fan) but I figured he was just suffering from a severe case of sour grapes, now I know better. :wink2:

    Agreed, regardless of our opinion on this, we all still want one thing....

    ....A Miami Dolphins win each week. :hi5:
     
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  18. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Aha maybe that's why. He's been doing this for years. I just laugh at those things more than get mad. about the only thing that got to me was maybe Welker mouthing off about wishing he was on the other side while playing for us. Stuff that disprespects your teammates, that's what gets me worked up. Other than that, meh, 53 players on the team you're going to get many different personalities. :D
     
  19. texasPHINSfan

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    i agree with these comments 100%. i was one of the more critical people of joey's mouth all last week, and i'll have to eat my shoe about him producing.

    but he only did it this time. this is the first time he's produced after yapping all week while a member of the dolphins. as others have said, i wish he'd produce without mouthing to the media all the time. plenty of people play GOOD football without being loud about it.

    as L2G said, even a blind squirrel finds a nut! i'm VERY happy that Porter had such a great game, but he's been loud for a long time, this is the first time i've seen him produce for us, really.

    I hope to see more of this production from him, less of the yapping.
     
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  20. Fin Fan In Cali

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    Thanks to beemerdaddy for this.
    Miami Dolphins 2008 Salary Cap Version 1.0

    Porter Joey $4,800,000 $2,400,000 $7,600,000 $14,800,000

    Yes he had a good game but how much is it going to cost us per sack this year for Joey?
     
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  21. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Is that this year and the last 3? Seems like he's going to be cut after next year for sure, or at least the year after.
     
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  22. Fin Fan In Cali

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    For 2008 brother.:wink2:
     
  23. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    i'm predicting he gets cut after this year. no team will be willing to pay that amount for his 2009 salary, so a trade would be out. and i *doubt* he'll take a pay cut.

    enjoy your year with porter, this will probably be his last here.
     
  24. Roman529

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    Did anyone besides me think that Joey Porter getting flagged for un-necessary roughness on Cassell was total joke? Are they going to start putting dresses on the QB's. Joey didn't hit him late....he wrapped Cassell up and took him to the ground. Nothing dirty about it. :pity:
     
  25. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    well two things.

    1) it wasn't Porter, it was Holliday.

    2) it was completely illegal. driving a player (regardless of position) into the ground is against the rules. the fact that they called it "roughing the passer" as opposed to "unnecessary roughness" is immaterial, both penalties have the same outcome.
     
  26. Roman529

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    Sorry I thought it was Porter. :lol: I guess not being able to get the audio affected my eyes as well. It looked clean to me, and if you get flagged for something like that there is something seriously wrong. I am sure Dick Butkus never got flagged for doing the exact same thing.
     
  27. texasPHINSfan

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    well it IS football but there is still a fine line between what is necessary to complete a play and what is unnecessary. i'm a dolphin fan but i'm not blinded by the glasses - that play was unnecessary. he could have tackled Cassel without driving him into the ground.... it was blatant too. Holliday's looking up at the official right after it happened just tells me Vonnie knew it was illegal.

    no harm no foul, we still won the game. but it is against the rules. this also goes along with the presser the NFL just released last week about unnecessary roughness & violence.... in a new effort to reduce injuries and violence they are calling plays that are unnecessarily rough. makes sense.

    that particular tackle could have broken cassel's back.
     
  28. unluckyluciano

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    since he has been here I think about 1/5 or 1/4............. In all fairness if that was a batting average he'd be starting for the kc royals.


    Ok bad example..........
     
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  29. finsgirlie

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    I still didn't like the fact that he was "predicting" again. He wasn't right the first two times and definitely didn't have the walk to match the talk. There has been a large improvement with the offense this year hands down, but I still don't like the show-off talk. Just walk the walk man.
     
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  30. Fin Fan In Cali

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    What ever happened to the Walter Payton's of the world, that let there play do the talking. He was pure class in this league.:up:
     
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  31. azfinfanmang

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    Unfortunately, Barry Sanders is long retired and Marvin Harrison is a shell of his former self.


    For the record, Ronnie seems to be in the same mold to some extent. His only celebration seems to be just short of the goal-line when he EXPLODES all over whichever Defensive back is in his way :lol:
     
  32. jdang307

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    53 players, 53 different personalities. All walks of life.

    We have other players like Walter. The team is full of Paytons (class wise ;)). Non dolphins fans say Mercury Morris talks too much. Oh well! :lol:
     
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