Ahh, I see. You think coaching has no bearing on anything. Neither do systems I take it. Injuries mean nothing too. The only thing that affects the W/L record of a team is the GM. Maybe you should choose another sport to follow, since you have no clue just what in the hell you're talking about.
The Jackson story I believe is the lie. Not that you are lying unless it's something you dreamed up and are telling it here (and God knows elsewhere) just so if you & others hear it enough you start believing it true.....not saying you did that, just saying IF YOU DID......and if you heard it from Ireland, Jesse Agler, or any other lemmings from the Finsiders, or at Miamidolphins.com, well I consider the source. For them it would be self-serving, and of course going after him last year kills the theory of going big this off-season. If Jackson comes in and is pretty good and doesn't make the offense as putrid as it was I don't think there would have been so much of a push to do the drastic changes this year. JMO......
Last year Philbin walked into the interveiw with a plan on how to build a winning franchise. Ireland has said he fell in love with the plan from the get go and apparently so did Ross. That plan included tearing down the team and building it back up in a completely different mold. So yes last year was a through away year because it was part of the demolition process but had there been a wr on the market that was a long term solution, then I don't doubt they would have made a play for him. But who was out there that wasn't just a short term bandaid? The front office made a decision last year that they weren't go to throw money and/or draft picks on short solutions but rather concentrate on a long term plan. And as for fans spending their hard earned money, I flew the hole family down from NY to see the jags game and was happy to do so because we aren't fairweather fans. PS both kids had a great time, my daughter even made it up on to the jumbotron.
So what will finally convince you ? If Ross does fire Ireland after another losing season, I will hold you accountable. You'd best come out with both gunz blazing after Ross, or you'll be called out as a phony.
Basically, what you're doing is saying the info is a lie and the happy horse crap you've made up in your head is the truth because....because....Ireland sucks that's why!!!!!! You are full of ****. And again, going after Jackson does nothing to hurt theory of going big this offseason.
If Ireland said it, then it can't be believed. JMO.....I've seen this guy operate for 5 ½ years now, and he's as shady as they come.
Shady means untrusting and secretive. Hard to be that when your offseason decisions are there in black and white, good or bad.
Convince me of what? That the GM is solely responsible for the W/L record as you've so stupidly argued for? That will never happen, because its a ******ed view. And listen very carefully, Sport, you are barking up the wrong tree. I've been on record numerous times on this site in countless threads about what I expect from the team before I say whether Ireland should be kept or not. That is the problem with you and all you other crybaby members of the Chicken Little Brigade, you guys are so far up your own asses with hate and emotion you can't possibly fathom that if someone doesn't share in your misery, they must be Kool-Aid drinkers vomiting optimism and rainbows. You're no different than the CLBers from last year that thought I was cupping Ireland's balls because I predicted an 8-8 season while they were predicting 3-13. Nothing I've said is a lie. You just pretend it is, because it doesn't jibe with your preconceived hatred.
Geeesh, get personal, that's the way you always react. I'll spell it out plainly, then leave the thread. I believe Ireland to be a lying, self-serving, arrogant Texas pr*ck, that would stab anyone (Sporano) in the back and throw a friend under the bus. When he did that he lost me forever. And I am one that believes Sporano was a bad coach and was in over his head. However he didn't deserve to be treated like that, and Ireland knew better, and should have stood up for his friend. Instead he played Brutus. UNFORGIVABLE. His record since then is only marginally better. Sometime if he can't put a winner on the field its about him. 1 pro bowler on the team is another clue this guy just isn't as good as he thinks or some on here think.
You make it sound like Sporano and Ireland were bussom buddies. They worked together in Dallas and were brought over by Parcels. As far as I know, they were business associates and nothing more. Heck, as far as we know they may not have ever liked each. Everytime Ireland pursues a FA or makes a draft pick he is doing so to replace a guy on the team, he is playing Brutus then or just when its the head coach?
A lying, self serving, arrogant, husband, father of two austistic children pric.. Do you know him to call him a lier and a pric? Or is that based off info from the Internet.?, cause I can prove he's a dad who takes care of two children with autism..not gonna judge a man that does that unless im absolutely positive about what you say he is.
Ross wanted to pursue the best coaching prospect ever..justifiably so..Ireland had to go along with him, and sparano was lucky to get another 3 mill to coach the team.
You didn't need to spell it out, we all already knew what your stance was. You act like Ireland and Sparano were BFFs. They weren't. Ireland was his boss and its absolutely Ireland's job to hold Sparano responsible for Sparano's short comings in his job. To even act like this was Julius Caeser level back stabbing is so beyond the realm of rational thought that it can only be viewed as either dumber than a bucket of shrimp or utterly bat **** crazy. Ireland was Sparano's boss. Ireland owed nothing to Sparano. Hell, following your moronic logic, Sparano betrayed Bonamego too, right?
You know nothing about management speak do you? When you're stuck with 4's, 5's and 6's, you try to find a way to motivate them to become 1's, 2's and 3's. 1) it worked, because Hartline clearly elevated to at least a #2 2) you can't remake every single position in 1 offseason when you're at the bottom of the hill talent wise.
Okay Tony, get off our blog please. we really need a forum where we can post candidates for "worst post of the year". this would be an easy entry. You clearly are about 2 years behind what has been going on in this franchise....try to catch up.
Ireland will rise or fall with Tannehill's performance, imo he probably should have been fired after 2011, he cowboy'd up and took a Qb with a high #1 and that bought him a year. His move up to take Dion Jordan also raised his stock imo, and a draft class that finally reflects what it takes to compete in the AFCE his stock is slightly rising, 4 straight losing years cannot be ignored though, #5 and he probably should be packing.
I didn't understand Darlington's comment about the draft. Paraphrasing but..."I love that move to go up and get that guy (Jordan) even though they liked Austin. When they couldn't get Austin they went up and got Jordan..." Something to that affect. I don't get the comment. Miami COULD have gotten Austin there if they wanted. Obviously Ireland must have liked Jordan better or he would have taken Austin.
Ireland did like Jordan better, but felt as if he didn't have to spend any resources to get Austin. By the time draft day rolled around, he knew someone was probably going to either take Austin before the 12th pick or another team was going to trade up and do the same thing. If he was going to be forced to trade away one of our second-round picks, it was going to be for the player he felt he couldn't come out of the draft without, not the player he had just casually hoped would fall into his lap.
Miami wanted Austin, but I think they only wanted him at the right price - the 6th or 8th pick. Once they determined they couldn't trade up there for what they wanted, they went ahead and moved up to 3 to draft Dion Jordan. I'd assume they thought taking Austin at 3 wouldn't be enough return value on the trade. I agree.
View it like buying a car. Sure, we all want a Ferrari, but we figure we can't afford one. Now maybe there's a Jaguar we think might be available at our price. So we look into it and turns out the Jag is slightly more than we're willing to pay for a Jaguar. We figure screw it, let's call the Ferrari dealer and see what they're offering for ****s and giggles. We find out that price is higher than the Jag, but not by much so we could actually get that Ferrari we never thought we could get. Basically, Dion and Tavon were both coveted but not to the same degree. They just figured they had no realistic shot at Dion.
They had Jordan 1 and Austin 2. They knew 100% that Jordan would not fall to them. They thought Austin had a good chance. Then realized that they would miss out on their #1 and #2, so they said screw it, lets get our number 1. They could have settled but they didn't.
In your analogy you can still buy the Jag for less than the Ferrari and I'm not sure Ireland had that option as there may not have been another trade partner other than the Raiders.
lol oh NOW last year was a throw away year? Did you feel that way going into the season when you saw how sorry Tannehill's weapons were? Doubt it. and there were plenty of long term answers at WR in the draft, didn't stop ole Jeffy from waiting until the second to last round to address it.
If he didn't have that option, then no the price of the Jag was not less than the Ferrari, it was the same.
yes, actually. most fans with a brain had realistic expectations that last year was a rebuilding year. most optimistic fans predicted 7-9 wins. and more importantly, most fans saw that we had Hartline and Fasano as the next best options behind Bush so it was a year where likely nothing was going to happen. and "plenty of long term solutions at WR in the draft" is pure speculation on your part.
We essentially traded up to #3 overall for what it'd cost to trade up to #5 or #6. I think the Browns probably wanted #12, #54, and a mid round pick/Bess for #6 so instead we decided to see what it'd take for Jordan when he fell to #3. When it turned out Oakland wanted similar value to what Cleveland wanted, they pulled the trigger. Jordan was their top ranked prospect that they originally thought they didn't have a shot at. This is my speculation though, not reporting this as fact.
It wasn't exactly rocket science to see how inactive they were in FAs and draw the conclusion it was a rebuilding year.
Two years ago, this was Chad Henne's team. The QB is the most important position on the team and therefore it will always be considered the QB's team, no matter who the QB might be. Hopefully Tannehill will develop into a quality QB in the NFL and we will still be talking about this being Tannehill's team for the next decade. If he doesn't work out for the long term, we will be reading an article in a couple of years about this being the latest starting QB's team.
You're not understanding. They are saying Tannehill has actually become a leader and the team actually looks to him as a leader and its not by default.
not always true. Was San Fran Alex Smith's team? No. Until very recently, was Baltimore Joe Flacco's team? No. So, the two superbowl teams didn't fit the mold, although they fit the mold moving forward.
and if we have a winning season, we can give Ireland credit and you can leave the forum (forever) with your guns blazing. All your posts are completely embellishing the history of what went on. and furthermore, there is zero evidence of "shadiness" by Ireland since BP left.
