Jay Feely's comments on Cam and JT

the rest of it is kind of important too

'Probably his one mistake, I think, was kind of taking on Jason and trying to diminish his role on the team, because he's just a guy that gives you everything he's got, he was the defensive MVP, and that kind of left a bad taste in all of the players' mouths,'' Feely said. ``Every first-year head coach is going to make mistakes like those when you come in because you're trying to establish yourself, you're trying to establish your authority over the team.''

Feely said the team also didn't like the way Cameron spoke to Taylor in front of the them.

''I think that there was more made of it publicly than in reality in the locker room, but there wasn't a love-fest between the two of them,'' Feely said.

especially the part of where he said it was made more publicly in than in the locker room...

"jason8er wrote:

Wow. Very interesting comments that answer a few of my season long concerns.

eh, the more and more I hear about Cam the more I see how bad of a HC he was. His main knock, no leadership ability whatsoever which is one thing the quote refers to

Ooops. Forgot the link. Fixed it. :001_rolleyes:

I know the Tuna has reached out to JT. I hope he promised to utilize him like in '06. I've been leaning towards having him back next year and this crap just solidifies that thought.

"jason8er wrote:

I know the Tuna has reached out to JT. I hope he promised to utilize him like in '06. I've been leaning towards having him back next year and this crap just solidifies that thought.

Parcells also pubically said he would like to keep JT. If JT stays I think he plays much better in 08 than in 07 out of respect for Parcells alone vs. the disrespect he (and half the team had) for Cam. The vets must be LOVING this move

"arsenal2 wrote:

the rest of it is kind of important too

especially the part of where he said it was made more publicly in than in the locker room...

Yep, in other words it was more the media than with the team.

Taylor, the 2006 Defensive Player of the Year, was on the NBC conference call because he will be a guest analyst this weekend for the network's Football Night in America show.

''Bill Parcells was hired a couple weeks ago and with that, you knew he would make changes to try to correct this situation we find ourselves in,'' Taylor said. ``A couple days ago, Randy Mueller was let go . And now, Coach Cameron and his staff. It's one of those times, where as a player, it's a little unsettling because you don't really know what's going to happen. Everything is kind of up in the air. You don't have a whole lot of control over it. You step back and control the things that you can and let the things go that you can't. That's the only reaction I could have at this point.''

http://www.miamiherald.com/588/story/366393.html

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Taylor, the 2006 Defensive Player of the Year, was on the NBC conference call because he will be a guest analyst this weekend for the network's Football Night in America show.

''Bill Parcells was hired a couple weeks ago and with that, you knew he would make changes to try to correct this situation we find ourselves in,'' Taylor said. ``A couple days ago, Randy Mueller was let go . And now, Coach Cameron and his staff. It's one of those times, where as a player, it's a little unsettling because you don't really know what's going to happen. Everything is kind of up in the air. You don't have a whole lot of control over it. You step back and control the things that you can and let the things go that you can't. That's the only reaction I could have at this point.''

http://www.miamiherald.com/588/story/366393.html

I think he is glad Cam is gone. I dont think JT bought into, nor liked any move he made from day 1

"dolpns13 wrote:

Parcells also pubically said he would like to keep JT. If JT stays I think he plays much better in 08 than in 07 out of respect for Parcells alone vs. the disrespect he (and half the team had) for Cam. The vets must be LOVING this move

Parcells of all people, barring some ridiculously lopsided trade, would never get rid of his best defensive player. The ball is in JT's court now.

As far as playing better in '08, I think so too, but he wasn't too shabby this year either. I think we were all spoiled after '06.

This is just more of the same stuff....Cam is gone and now is time to move on....is a fresh start and the good thing is you can see that Bill and Ireland are in the same page......the HC will be on the same page too....there's gonna be 1 direction from now on and anyone who's not on board with it will not be a part of the team.

Ozzy rules!!

"jason8er wrote:

Parcells of all people, barring some ridiculously lopsided trade, would never get rid of his best defensive player. The ball is in JT's court now.

As far as playing better in '08, I think so too, but he wasn't too shabby this year either. I think we were all spoiled after '06.

well historically JT usually gets off to slow starts. did he deserve the pro bowl, i cant argue that he did or didnt. But when asked what Parcells would do with JT he said, that he would like to keep him and its his philosophy that you keep the good players you have, and try to aquire more good players... Now what he does with ZT, I dont know. But I would think that if he keeps JT, he keeps ZT. If he releases ZT then were gonna have some major issues at MLB because Crowder isnt good enough to start at that position

Don't like Cam very much as a head coach. And if you've seen my rants about him lately, you'd agree that is an understatement.
Generally the head coach asserting his authority, especially in his first year, is important. If Cam hadn't challenged JT, and the team still performed the way they did this year, Feely could just as easily be saying that Cam's problem was that he let others assume the leadership role for the team. So I'm not sure that Feely has pinpointed the cause of the problems with Cam's leadership, but he is telling us that there was a big problem. More than a lot of Cam defenders want to admit.

What I find interesting is how quickly these comments were made. Less than 24 hours after his demise, the kicker of all players is calling out Cam's leadership. Whether it was this move that showed Cam's lack of leadership or not, the bottom line is that Feely is telling us that the locker room didn't believe in Cam. That is why he wasn't given another year. Great coordinator, bad leader. Good riddance.

Taylor has earned his respect as a player in this league, Cam has not as a head coach.

Well if he lost the confidence of the kicker then I agree that Cameron should have been let go

I think Parcells would be open to trading Taylor...for the right price. Which, in turn, I doubt anyone will play. Taylor is still extremely valuable to this team. It's just that we are in long term mode now, and he only has so many more years in him.

I don't get Cam singling Taylor out much like I didn't get it when Saban once singled out Zach. These guys are practically like having an extra pair of coaches. They are always motivated, play at an extremely high level, and do it for the team. Why single a guy like that out?

I was suspect about Cam when he was talking about starting Chatman over Ronnie, I knew then he was not going to make it as a head coach.

"phinfan0715 wrote:

I was suspect about Cam when he was talking about starting Chatman over Ronnie, I knew then he was not going to make it as a head coach.

and starting ronnie as KR, and playing JT on ST's...Overall Cam didnt know what he was doing. He made mistakes a high school coach wouldnt make

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Well if he lost the confidence of the kicker then I agree that Cameron should have been let go

The NFL Litmus test! :up:

"dolpns13 wrote:

and starting ronnie as KR, and playing JT on ST's...Overall Cam didnt know what he was doing. He made mistakes a high school coach wouldnt make

Yeah, I forgot about the Ronnie at KR experiment, that was ridiculous.:confused2:

"phinfan0715 wrote:

I was suspect about Cam when he was talking about starting Chatman over Ronnie, I knew then he was not going to make it as a head coach.

My God, cant you see the obvious?
That move wasn't a colossal mistake in personnel assessment and utilization at all!
That move was the move of a master motivator!
:lol:

"phinfan0715 wrote:

Yeah, I forgot about the Ronnie at KR experiment, that was ridiculous.:confused2:

how about calling a timeout after an incomplete pass... Oh man, the list just goes on and on from training camp all the way to week 17...

How did we not lose a game during our bye week is another question :glare:

You know, everyone questioned what Cam did to Ronnie, making him return kickoffs, talk of starting Chatman and look what it did to Ronnie, ignited a fire in him and thats exactly what Cam wanted. Ronnie was a beast right before he got injured, definitely on pace to be in the pro-bowl. Maybe Cam tried to do the same with JT? (This is speculation) Except it backfired with JT because of his ego. Maybe Cam came into the situation, saw Ronnie and JT slacking off in practice and decided to fire them up SOMEHOW. How do you do that? Have them prove to you that they want to play, have them compete like they want it. It probably didn't work with JT either because Dom didn't know what the H he was doing with the defense and that probably frustrated JT further. You know, JT did give the game ball to Cam when they won so maybe he understood what Cam was trying to do, and appreciated it. Who knows, this is just one person's view, a kicker, and y'all are running with it. No one knows what JT and Cam have said to each other away from Feely.

JT was a beast without Cam. Cam tried to tame the beast, then the alpha male came in and bit him in the ass.

Goodbye Cam Cameron. YOU FOUR EYED MFER!!!!!

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Well if he lost the confidence of the kicker then I agree that Cameron should have been let go

If it was only the kicker the guy might still be around. The kicker is the one telling us that he lost the confidence of the team.